All terrain tire with a quiet ride?

jaxyaks · Jan 14, 2023

85GT 79FJ40 said: ↑

Although the OP already bought tires I am surprised at the number of tires suggested that totally are not what the guy is looking for were suggested. I've had a lot of the tires mentioned. Falkens.... cheap and chunky yes. But good luck getting a round set. And wear and dry rot... Awful. I had Toyo AT3's too. Awful tire after 15k miles. Almost as loud as a duratrac at that point. Tires I would suggest for his use. Yoko G015 and BFG trail terrain. I'm on my second set of trail terrains now. Had them on my 17 abd put 25k miles on them. Awesome wear, good looks, great snow performance, and pretty quiet too. The G015's are silent and awesome. But look kinda meh. When I bought wheels for my 19 I got a set of trail terrains. Very happy with them. I've had numerous sets of KO2's. I refer to the trail terrain as the perfect tire for people who love KO2's but are tired of listening to them.
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The OP's decription of his usage and needs, pretty much describes the Michelin Defender LTX M/S to a T.....

The bonus is they are not too shabby off road either...
https://tractionlife.com/michelin-defender-ltx-ms-review/

Junkhead · Jan 14, 2023

TacoSupremo19 said: ↑

Couple basic things I've learned about tires.

The longer the warranty, the harder the compound and the more likely they will perform poorly in rain. Furthermore, as they age they will get worse too as the compound gets harder. I had 2 sets of tire that had 60K + mile warranty BFG KO and Michelin LTX M/S that were like this. Those 2 tires, especially the Michelins were scary in rain but I think i got 80K on them and they were smooth and quiet the whole time. Conversely, the lower the mileage warranty the softer the compound and have a better chance of staying grippy. Just my experience. I try to buy tires in the 50K range as compromise between wear and traction.

Second is siping in the tread. This helps a lot with traction especially with ice. Somewhat with rain. Some siping is deeper and more prevalent on some tires than others. I try to always buy tires with as much siping as possible

I had KO2 and they didn't inspire confidence in me in the rain, especially as they aged. I got to about 20K on them before I sold my 3rd gen 4Runner. I had 275 70 17 E rated and those things were bullet proof. I off-roaded several times on jagged rock trails and never had a problem. I got a gash in the sidewall and I think any other tire would have gotten a flat. I also thought they were OK in snow. I had one near stuck situation (about 14" of snow if I remember right that I thought I should have been able to get through). I honestly haven't had my present tires in the kind of snow I almost got stuck in with my 4Runner (I have TOYO AT3)

My TOYOs have done well so far. Confidence in rain. Decent in the snow I was in last year (but nothing over 6-8 inches) Wearing well. I have about 25k on them. I think they are getting some noise but it's not annoying at all. I like them.

I am looking at the Wildpeaks. They pretty much are the only ones that make a 275 70 17 in c rating. They are a tiny bit heavier than comparable tires (that are E-rated too) maybe because their tread is deeper and wider. I do like the look of them and people generally seem to speak favorably of them. I was also thinking of going to 255 "skinny " route

Decisions, decisions....
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Kumho at52 also comes in C load 275/70/17.

https://www.quattrotires.com/tires/kumho-road-venture-at52

Ronk44 · Jan 14, 2023

Junkhead said: ↑

Kumho at52 also comes in C load 275/70/17.

https://www.quattrotires.com/tires/kumho-road-venture-at52
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I have the Kumhos P rated, great tire so far. Recently drove in heavy snow and slush/ice. Much better than my old KO2s

Jesse H · Jan 14, 2023

Ronk44 said: ↑

I have the Kumhos P rated, great tire so far. Recently drove in heavy snow and slush/ice. Much better than my old KO2s
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How are they in terms of noise?

Ronk44 · Jan 14, 2023

Quiet, much more than my prior KO2s that were E-rated.

Woofer2609 · Jan 14, 2023

Firestone Destination XT's or Michelin Defenders, as mentioned. OP asked for quiet tires; Nitto's and KO2'S are not quiet, and KO's are not nearly as good in the snow. Both will outperform the tires i mentioned for puncture resistance, but they are heavy and noisy. Ditched my KO's and am more than impressed with my Destination XT's. Very good in the snow.

Kidlin · Jan 14, 2023

I can highly recommend the Toyo AT3’s for your desired use. They have given me great traction in rain, are very quiet on the road and haven’t tanked my MPG at all. My only criticism would be a little bit of wandering but I think that could be the touchy steering on my truck cause it did on the stock tires a little bit too.

rainsux · Jan 15, 2023

For your use case:

- Nokian Outpost AT’s get excellent reviews and Nokian includes pothole protection.
- My second choice is Continental Terrain Contact.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2022-Tyre-Reviews-All-Terrain-Tyre-Test.htm

https://youtu.be/2hwYCc6YvYM

BuzzardsGottaEat · Jan 15, 2023

vicali said: ↑

On road -check,
Some dirt/gravel - check,
year round - check,
good treadware - check.

You are literally the perfect Defender customer.
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Get to work in the snow - no check.

https://www.tundras.com/threads/3pmsf-three-peak-mountain-snowflake-tire-list.109521/

WarBeard_Actual · Jan 15, 2023

rainsux said: ↑

For your use case:

- Nokian Outpost AT’s get excellent reviews and Nokian includes pothole protection.
- My second choice is Continental Terrain Contact.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2022-Tyre-Reviews-All-Terrain-Tyre-Test.htm

https://youtu.be/2hwYCc6YvYM
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Great review

Nobody:
This guy: I'm gonna test an all terrain on only some of the terrain. lol

Sand. Mud. Different snow packs. Maybe just a bit of crawling, but nothing crazy. Would have been nice to get that data.

The braking and hydroplane characteristics were quite telling, however.

And Nitto all-terrains are trash. For the life of me I don't understand why people buy these things.

Calamity_taco · Jan 15, 2023

WarBeard_Actual said: ↑

I've had these tires just about everywhere and on anything. Sand. Dirt. Snow. Wet sand. Mud. Slush.

Try airing them down and turning your traction control off idk. Other than having mud terrains in the actual mud, they provide plenty of traction.

I have never driven them in arctic cold temperatures, so the comment somebody made about them being parked for a while while aired down and having impressions is interesting. I air my tires down all the time, I've had them parked at campsites overnight, but never in -degree weather or anything. If you work in the mountains get muddies. If you are always driving around in absolute shit there is no reason to be running all terrains. Curious what you run now?

lmao... This honestly made me laugh. Agreed. I can't tell you how many people I've seen get stuck out at Sand Hollow state park here in Utah simply because they don't air their tires down while trying to drive off the beach. If anybody here is talking about mud, sand, snow, or slush, without the perspective of having their tires down below 20 psi they seriously shouldn't be commenting on traction.

Reality is that most tires that aren't "all weather" tires (basically an aggressive all terrain or muddy) will do ok. If people are concerned about road noise they shouldn't be driving a truck. And no tire gets traction on ice. None. Unless it has studs on it or a chain.

I see more people down here with rock-shredded Falkens and Toyo ATs than any other tire so I'm not sure what you are talking about tbh. Let me tell you a story, the toyota dealership out here and the only 4wd shop in town sell Falken and Toyo ATs almost exclusively, probably because they have an awesome deal/relationship with them or something, I don't know and honestly don't care why, but all the pavement princess trucks with the "factory lift" have either of those. Almost always. And they're always the ones getting flats out in the desert. I'm not saying KO2s are bomb-proof, nothing is, but there is a reason a 265/75/16 KO2 is one of the heaviest ATs you can buy. More rubber. It is in the sidewalls and tread blocks.

People need to get what they need, ultimately. I need a tire that won't take a shit on my life when I'm 120 miles from civilization sitting on the edge of the grand canyon. Do you, bro, but you have no idea what you are talking about
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sooo we are comparing e loads to c loads now? because i know tons that wheel with falkens and toyos and no issues and they actually get places unlike the ko2s...

terryhutchinson · Apr 30, 2023

Just think this needs to be mentioned - KO2's are 3 Peak rated (look it up - believe it or not).

Ronk44 · May 1, 2023

terryhutchinson said: ↑

Just think this needs to be mentioned - KO2's are 3 Peak rated (look it up - believe it or not).
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I had KO2s … never again for winter. Wasn’t happy with them. Once they wore out, I replaced with Kumhos that have been great in snow and ice.

jaymac10 · May 1, 2023

I have been very impressed with these 3 Peak Rated AT tires made by Cooper! The ride is quiet to the point where I don't notice tire noise... (My last set was Toyo ATIIIs which were louder)

Plus they are cheap in comparison

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...l-terrain-for-truck-suv-0052099p.0073648.html

RusstysTaco · May 1, 2023

jaymac10 said: ↑

I have been very impressed with these 3 Peak Rated AT tires made by Cooper! The ride is quiet to the point where I don't notice tire noise... (My last set was Toyo ATIIIs which were louder)

Plus they are cheap in comparison

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...l-terrain-for-truck-suv-0052099p.0073648.html

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they look pretty good too

TheDanimal · May 2, 2023

Ronk44 said: ↑

I had KO2s … never again for winter. Wasn’t happy with them. Once they wore out, I replaced with Kumhos that have been great in snow and ice.
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To each their own, my KO2s have been pretty good with all the snow (and rain) that we get in Germany

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