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Bilstein 6112 Question

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Kodiak235, May 10, 2023.

  1. May 10, 2023 at 3:05 PM
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    Kodiak235

    Kodiak235 [OP] New Member

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    Hi everyone,

    First time posting here so go easy on me. I just got the Bilstein 6112 for my 2020 Tacoma. The guy at the shop said my rear's were probably still good but I see other's upgrading the rears when they upgrade the front's as well. Do I need to upgrade the rear shocks as well? Is it going to have a huge front rake if I dont? Super lost

    Thanks!
     
  2. May 10, 2023 at 3:08 PM
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    it depends what setting you use, as far as height.
    Click the link and go through the pics, you will see the height chart.
    https://hotshotoffroad.com/collecti...s/bilstein-6112-coil-strut-combo-05-23-tacoma
    It is a good idea to replace shocks at the same time, and of the same design.
    Is it going to kill you while you save up for the rear? No.
    I was forced to do the rear of my truck as my added weight had it sagging bad. I opted to do the rear right, and not half ass it. It rides great for now, but I am saving up and collecting components to do the front. Bilstein 5160 and 6112.
     
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    Your shocks do not control your ride height.

    Hop over onto the Suspension subforum and get to reading. There is plenty to learn.
     
  4. May 10, 2023 at 3:25 PM
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    The rear lift is created by the leaf springs or AAL and or blocks. The issue with lifting the rear is the shocks can be over extended. That said a lot of people keep the stock shocks with a mild lift.
     
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    Absolutely will do that. Thank you!
     
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    Welcome to the forum!

    First, know that there are 2 models of the 6112s (old and new) so some of the advice you are going to get will have the new numbers (up to 11 settings) or old number (up to 5 settings).

    With the new 6112s, settings of #9/#7 will net most DC4x4 models 1.4" of lift in front. That will give approximately zero rake if you maintain your rear as-is (ignoring potential settlement, etc. that someone is sure come along and argue why I am wrong). Stock units, they say, will have approximately 1.5" of rake (back is 1.5" higher than front).

    So if you keep your front settings at #9/#7 or less, you would not necessarily need to upgrade your rears at the same time.

    As MR E30 said, the shocks on the back have nothing to do with ride height. The leaf springs (or lift blocks) will dictate ride height in the back. Shocks just stop springs from doing springy things.
     
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    is there any difference between performance quality of old/new?
     
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    Rear shocks won't change the ride height....so you're good there with the stock shocks vs. the 5160's creating a difference. I have a 6112/5160 combo with no add a leaf in the rear and the fronts are set to 1.25'' and the truck sits completely level to maybe a little bit nose high. It looks good IMO.
     
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  9. May 10, 2023 at 7:54 PM
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    I do not know. I just threw that out there to differentiate when some people say they are set at #5/#4 and sime at #10/#8. I assume they function the same, the newer ones just have more notches to dial the lift height a little more...
     
  10. May 10, 2023 at 7:58 PM
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    Do lots of research and buy once cry once. I did the 6112/5160 but went with custom front coils and custom leaf pack. The custom front coils gave me the ability to keep the 6112 on the bottom perch to keep all my travel but also get the 2 inch lift in front. My custom leaf pack was made for static weight of 450lbs in the bed and also the 2 inch lift I required. I also switched out the needle bearing since you’re going to be right there anyway. My truck rides perfect and has settled in pretty much right at a 2 inch lift. I can’t recommend the 6112/5160 more gives a great ride if set up right.
     
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    I'm running 6112 with stock shocks in the rear (2" block).

    It's been fine for a year now. You will notice the difference in suspension movement however, the Bilsteins are WAY more controlled than the stock OR shocks.

    You do not need to go 5160 in the rear. Everything I have seen says the valving is the same so 5100s will function the same for significantly less cost. The 5160s add a bit more shock travel and can handle hard use better
     
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