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Questions on Installing Mirror Sequential Turn Signals

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by FL_TRD Sport, May 10, 2023.

  1. May 17, 2023 at 6:05 PM
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    Any video of this one?
     
  2. May 17, 2023 at 7:14 PM
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    I just installed smoked sequential on mine today...

    I broke the long outer clip on passenger side...
    So once I finished installing the new High Flyer...I was curious if it would snap back on without the broken clip...It snapped back on and seems to be just as tight as driver side....not sure if I won't to take it back off and crazy glue it...since it seems to be holding very tight...

    What do you guys think...will water get in behind cap with tab broken off??
    Like I mentioned it seems to have snapped back on very tightly...just worried water may get in behind it and damage mirror...am I just overthinking it lol?

    By the way...LOVE THESE SIGNALS THEY MATCH PERFECTLY IN SYNC WITH MY NOVA SERIES HEADLIGHTS SIGNALS!!
     
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  3. May 17, 2023 at 7:19 PM
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    Funny that one dude went v5 because the sequentials didn’t match the headlights. That’s one of the biggest reasons I sold my v5’s, they don’t match on reverse sequential.
     
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  4. May 17, 2023 at 7:33 PM
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    Nothing against folks changing their mirror signals for something else, various reasons people want to do so and I get that. I do want to point out, however, that the stock brightness is aimed specifically to the immediate right or left of the mirror and to the rearward sides. So basically the rear 180° of the truck can see the signals, no one in front can. That’s how it’s supposed to be. I only mention this because there are many different youtube comparisons and every single one I ever saw points at the signals from in front of the truck and compares how pitiful they are against whatever they are installing. They’re only meant to be seen by the rear and side drivers.

    Just feel that’s important to point out for comparison’s sake. My PO put some super dark sequentials on my truck and I hated them, first ‘mod’ I did was buy @daveeasa stock takeoffs for a hell of a good price and converted myself back to stock, chrome touches and all ;)
     
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  5. May 17, 2023 at 7:34 PM
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    Your warning about that is precisely why I didn’t buy the V5s new and why I didn’t buy your V5s that you had for sale for cheap. Thanks for saving me the hassle, I definitely would have ended up returning them or selling at a loss.
     
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  6. May 18, 2023 at 7:23 AM
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    That's why I'm thinking about changing them to flash like the stock ones; just a plain on and off. I suppose that's one of the advantages of the overpriced MESO units. That and they're bright even during the daylight.
     
  7. May 18, 2023 at 7:39 AM
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    My reasons for bailing on v5's in no particular order

    1. Two defective units, both on the one side, one set of DRL's, one set of Turns. Poor quality of assembly means I lost confidence in them long term
    2. Didn't like the look, felt very dot matrix printer esque vs the smoked lens of the sequentials or OEM's which look smooth
    3. Price, couldn't justify 3x the price to replace something I felt was already good enough
    4. Bulk of wiring harness, not waterproof even, just a ton of crap rattling around in the mirror cavity when I already have spiders and leafs getting in there, less is more for me on that part
    5. Extra wires through my firewall and kick panel. I don't yet have DRL in the cab and with MT it's a bear going through the driver side firewall. Also the door boots are tight AF. I probably would have used my puddle injector to get it done but man, at some point it just gets a bit loco
    6. Reverse sequential not in sync w headlight, looked very off to me even though I won't see it, and I actually really like the headlights doing reverse sequential with the mirrors doing regular sequential. Timing seems ideal with the cheapos
    7. Don't really love DRL on the mirrors, I think I prefer turn. Though for my older trucks with no DRL, having it on the mirror would be one way to get it done cheap/easy. I don't personally like amber DRL, I think it's confusing to other drivers but that's for sure my own personal hangup
    If OEM came in non-chrome I think I'd probably pay a bit extra for those.
     
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  8. May 18, 2023 at 7:45 AM
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    I'm guilty of taking a video from the front as well, but I will say that I can actually see my aftermarket ones throwing light to the left and right now (I barely could with the stock ones) and I can actually see the light that is showing to the rear as there is a slight overhang of the lens beyond the mirror.

    Having said all that, I wouldn't have spent the money on aftermarket ones if one of the lenses on my stock ones hadn't been cracked, but now that I have, I am happy with the result. I feel they are brighter in areas where they need to be, and the look of them matches the them of my truck better imo.
     
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  9. May 18, 2023 at 8:11 AM
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    Here is a video of my signals. It's daylight, but you kinda get a sense of how much brighter they are.

    https://youtu.be/ghdufb8Dbl0
     
  10. May 18, 2023 at 8:39 AM
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    Agree with pretty much all your points.

    The main reason I went with the overpriced MESO units was that all the aftermarket offerings only blink in sequential which drove me nuts not matching up with the factory reverse sequential of the headlights. This thread made me go back set the MESO lights to blink normal which to my disappointment don't blink in sync with signals in the headlights; although they're close enough to the taillights. The reverse sequential is entertaining but for a functional aspect I'd prefer for them to stay lit for a longer duration, versus flashing on then fading away.

    Your #4 point drove me nuts! I had went through the trouble of adding insulation in my door panels to help with the speakers and an added benefit was a solid thud when the doors closed. The excess wiring from the MESO units would rattle whenever I shut the doors, making it sound like I had broken hardware inside the door. I went back and shoved the wiring inside latex gloves and that fixed it. I also don't run DRL's because I'm not a fan of excessive lights just for lighting sake.

    So currently, the only benefit the MESO units have over the other Amazon products is that they can blink like stock. When I bought them all the aftermarket offerings light up sequentially which wasn't what I wanted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87AQJUbF-c0

    Not worth the price of admission and knowing what I know now I would've left well enough alone.

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    After some reading on here, I ended up purchasing the High Flying sequential turn signals off of Amazon ("Smoked Type A" color). The housings look and fit great and there were zero issues with the plug and play installation... However the sequential pattern lights up at different speeds on each side, and it's starting to drive me nuts. I requested a replacement set but I'm having the same problem with the new set. I'm assuming others have this issue and probably haven't noticed - It's not super obvious unless you're looking for it.

    The driver side lights up in a smooth sequential pattern and then briefly stays lit at the end of the sequential pattern. The passenger side sequential pattern lights up more slowly, does not look as smooth, and it does not stay lit briefly at the end of the pattern, so it produces more of a flash or strobe effect at the end of the sequential pattern.

    I'm thinking I will return this second set and go with a different brand at this point.
     
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    I still think the stock ones are way better than any of the aftermarket crap.
     
  13. Aug 23, 2023 at 11:40 AM
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    I will check mine right now. I never noticed this but maybe I have spent less time looking.

    A very very very rare moment where I disagree with you about truck stuff :)
     
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    OK, I just took a video and went through it frame by frame. The OEM LED's definitely are one frame ahead of the sequential mirror turns I have, both for on and off. The sequentials aren't terribly sequential, looks like only 4 sections, maybe 5, hard to get a good view around the side while watching from the front. L and R are as balanced as I'm able to detect, maybe with faster frame rate I might see a difference but if so then it's not noticeable to my eye.

    Granted I may be a less discriminating customer but to me, losing the chrome and getting the sequential was a positive and the price tag was about right. I actually kind of like that they trail off the headlights a bit, makes it look a bit intentional like two tone paint done well.

    I observe no L to R imbalance and I can see how that would be annoying.
     
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    Installed the High Flying sequential turn signals a few months ago. I just looked at them and both sides light up identically, nice and smooth with nothing unusual going on.

    I checked them as individual signals as well as hazards. Although as I mentioned earlier, they're a tad out of sequence with the headlights, neither side appears to be doing what you're describing. So I'm wondering if they changed something in their production, if there's a wiring issue or what? :confused:

    Here's a video I just made:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEz-PjXfY58
     
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    Basically the same here.
     
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    Thanks @daveeasa and @TRDRed for checking!
    @TRDRed - your passenger side sequential pattern speed appears to match the driver side! Both of the sets I received light up a little differently than yours do on the passenger side.

    I really like the look of these High Flying sequential turn signals, but the imbalance in light-up sequence speed between the Left and Right is bothering me (with both sets I received). Maybe there was a change in production/manufacturing. I did see at least one review on Amazon that mentioned the imbalance.

    For what it's worth, I also tested plugging in the driver side sequential turn signal into the passenger side mirror, just to make sure it's not my truck's wiring. I found the driver side sequential turn signal still lights up smoothly (and "correctly") when plugged into the passenger mirror... So there must be something different between the driver and passenger sequential light assemblies I received.

    Now I'm wondering if I should request one more replacement.
     
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  18. Aug 23, 2023 at 12:32 PM
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    Sadly, I wouldn't have a ton of faith that 3rd time would be a charm. It seems likely they just got a batch where they don't sync up. Maybe in a few months or a year or two they'll be back to balanced? I dunno. This is the gamble with this stuff I guess, it certainly sucks to have to play QA for cheap electronics.
     
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    That is weird then. Yes, I'd try one more set. Maybe wait a week or so for the inventory to "turn over" a bit? Might get a set from a different run. If that doesn't work out there are others that seem to be very similar looks and price-wise.

    Sorry you have to deal with that kind of nonsense. Hopefully it'll get ironed out one way or the other. Best of luck and keep us posted! :cheers:
     
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    I purchased my High Flying Smoked Sequentials for $45 on Feb 28, 2022 and installed them soon after.

    I only tested the hazards and they seemed fine to me...but as stated, "I wasn't looking for it." (It being the pattern flaw)

    Now, I feel like I need to go turn them on...lol!

    EDIT: It's 8:23pm and I turned the hazards on only. They work fine according to my eyes.
     
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