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Turbo/Hybrid good for longevity and reliability?

Discussion in '4th Gen. Tacomas (2024+)' started by Master_Yota, May 20, 2023.

  1. May 21, 2023 at 5:17 PM
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    es that’s what I’m getting at. The cost to change a Tacoma battery could it be likely less given different chemistries. I for one am looking forward to this new truck option. I think it’s great.
     
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  2. May 21, 2023 at 5:18 PM
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    What will be happening with all the old batteries when their toast? Landfill???
     
  3. May 21, 2023 at 5:19 PM
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  4. May 21, 2023 at 5:21 PM
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    The main drawbacks of nickel-metal hydride batteries are their high cost, strong self-rate, and the fact that they produce a large amount of heat at extreme temperature.

    The main challenges with nickel-metal hydride batteries are their high cost, high self-discharge and heat generation at high temperatures, and the need to control hydrogen loss.
     
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  5. May 21, 2023 at 5:24 PM
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    NimH are less expensive to us in hybrids and PHEVS than LiOn that's why Toyota is using them.
     
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  6. May 21, 2023 at 5:24 PM
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    I was surprised when I saw that it was NiMH and not Li abased. I am curious why they choose that particular battery type. I was reading the older Toyota hybrids used NiMH but then switched to Li
     
  7. May 21, 2023 at 5:26 PM
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    makes sense. Have they gotten better with the “memory” issues I wonder with these types of batteries?
     
  8. May 21, 2023 at 5:27 PM
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    AS far as I recall Toyota have been using NiMh since the 1997 Prius. The BZ4x I think is the only use of Lithium cells.
     
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  9. May 21, 2023 at 5:29 PM
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    I"m not sure, but there's higher energy density in Lithium than Nimh. But they are heavier than Lithium.
     
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    Shorter life cycle than lithium, so cost is offset.
    Unless your building it. :rofl:
     
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    10 years of life. Low replacement cost.
     
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    So after the warranty you replace it. Convenient.
     
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    Oh well, that's the way it is. So don't buy one. Problem solved.
     
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    Don't worry, not looking to. Too much added possible maintenance costs and other cosmetics I don't like.
    Good old days are gone. It's a shame.
    Too too much stuff on these vehicles to maintain.
     
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    Oh well. they won't miss you. Buy a Tacoma BEV when it comes out. It will outlast the turbo hybrids.
     
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    I think, if I am not mistaken, that fact they they have no promo material for the OF is very shady. Unless they are waiting to release it...

    Assuming they are not, this really boils my blood and really sours my taste with Toyota, as it would appear they are pushing people to the pro
     
  17. May 21, 2023 at 6:28 PM
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    Nope mine is $2500. Mine is a Hev which the Tacoma will be a ev has more batteries.
     
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    Buddy of mine has a early 2000s turbocharged Jetta approaching 400k miles. Original engine and turbo. He changes his oil every 3k miles with the cheapest oil he can buy but it works, the rust will be what takes that car out. It already put a hole on the trunk. Good clean oil will keep them going forever, not the 10k mile interval nonsense.
     
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    that, but see Tundra turbo waste gate problem, some things are just poor design and bound to fail no matter how you maintain it.

    as far as we know, the turbo 4 on Tacoma uses vacuum waste gate, much simpler and should be relatively more reliable than Tundra's electronically actuated waste gate
     
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    I helped replace my friends Prius battery wasn’t too bad actually, we bought a reconditioned battery for 1.5k, his Prius is about to hit 300k that thing is a shit box. They took the old battery as a core to be recycled.

    His brother has an accord with a turbo and cvt which is about to hit 120k should I tell him to sell before both automatically fail at 150k miles? (For some reason turbo/hybrid /cvt bashers are under the assumption that these automatically fail at 150k)
     
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