4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

It isn't about the engineers, they can only work in the parameters their given. so in other words, there hand were tied

 

Well according to the engine specs released the engines are just as capable and in some cases more capable than current engines. If their hands were tied than they are the world greatest engineers with the limitations you say they had.

 

at what cost to the longevity of the motors??????

 

The engines will have the same reliability as any other Toyota when maintained properly. Toyota have been in the turbo and hybrid game for 30+ years. I think they have it handled.

 

That's what I'm reading from the very limited release of information from Toyota. Others are quoting lengths, and widths, but I've not seen those numbers.

Did you read the HP specs from the Turbo 4? It was mid 300's on horse, and 425ish on torque (that's from memory, not exact). Both numbers put my 3.4 to shame, even when new. I once had a Lotus Esprit Turbo (4 cyl) that put most V-8's to shame, so I'm always willing to hear the engine that has VVT and a Turbo being argued as equivalent power plants.

 

I still ask the question - How did Toyota end up with the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO front end?

Looking at the 4th Gen a little closer, it looks like they chop topped the Tacoma, and replaced it with the new Bronco top?

 

You can get a 4WD SR Access Cab, I test drove one, seem perfectly adequate for running around town. Just didn’t have enough power for when I am loaded down pulling my moto trailer. I could have made it work, had a ‘85 and a ‘92 and drove them for years, racking up 100s of thousands of miles.

 

page 420

 

Does this suggest that a large block is a better heat sink? I'm not an ME or a metallurgist, but I'd argue a smaller block of Aluminum is much improved to dissipate heat than any cast block ever made. If such a statistic exists, I'd like to see a (insert your favorite chart type here) chart that reveals the percentages of warped heads between cast on cast, aluminum on cast, and aluminum on aluminum? I would guess, color me ignorant, that the cases of warping on Aluminum/Aluminum is far lower than the other two examples?

I tend to side with the argument that the design engineers at Toyota, the ones who've been producing engines for Tacoma's for almost 30 years that get between 300-500k miles consistently with proper maintenance, have this one in hand. With the advent of CAD, renders, models and destructive testing, I'm going to side with Toyota.

 

I know one thing, if they do pull off a Tacoma with 1700 lbs actual sticker payload, there will be some butt hurt Tundra owners....lol

 

The V-6 wasn’t a large block, it was a very nice in between that still had style and longevity because it isn’t being stressed.

 

More info

 

Exactly, inadequate for everything you do with a Tacoma, except just every day driving, it’s a car engine in a truck that you’re expecting to tow and go off-road with. How stupid.

 

What am I missing? My '05 RC Tacoma is spec'd at 1685 lbs payload and cost $13k new. My wife hates it with a passion because it’s a PoS to her. I love it just as passionately because it’s so capable and non pretentious.

 

You know what has a car engine in a truck? A 2016 4x4 trd double cab Taco. It doesn't even make more torque then it does hp.

 

Assuming that of all the reviews so far not one mention of the bed space capable of anything 4ft wide. Ford really nailed it with that acknowledgment.

 

I guess your main concern is the longevity of this power train and also reliability. I am also concerned about that and I don't question Toyota's ability to build an engine, I question the Turbo being able to withstand the lifespan of the engine. Basically not one less thing to worry about but another to worry about. A new turbo for a Lexus NX 350 which is basically the same engine that in the new Tacoma is almost $3k not counting labor, don't know about you but that is an steep price to pay for a part to go wrong, not only that; the turbo in this engine just as the Tundra is on the back side of the engine and not easily accessible.

Bottom line is yes the truck looks nice , yes the numbers look good . Is it going to be reliable?, no one knows but I have seen plenty of Toyota engines NA and Turbos where they have dropped the ball. I really hope though they didn't mess this one up!

 

Everyone poo-pooed the 10 speed Ford Universal Transmission, but it is now the number one modern use transmission in the world. I used to be a "Ford Guy," then we bought a new 2008 F-250 and it turned out to be a lemon. There is no camp I pitch my tent for right now, except maybe the American Made KIA platforms. I'm too new to the Tacoma platform to have any deep commitments or obligations to the type or brand. The world has evolved, and that evolution only has 4 cylinders. As a guy who used to hobby build big blocks for performance applications, I miss the V-8, but not its many challenges.

 

I have the 3.4 and never suggested it was a big block. So far, I'm happy with the midblock engine, but would welcome 326 HP and 465 FP Torque in a small block. It used to be when you got a "4-banger" there was a glut of free space under the bonnet, now they are falling to the same bad practices of large engine manufactures and covering all open spaces with emission control garbage, or plastic covers, all intended to dissuade hobby folk from cracking the cloak of mystery so they can change their own oil, and plugs.