4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

The FA20DIT was bad. I had one in a WRX and that thing had visceral knock.

 

Any idea when Toyota is going to release some numbers (dimensions,capacities,price) on the '24?

 

I think there’s two types of new car buyers. There are those that always want something new and flashy and are either leasing or trading in their vehicle every 2-3 years. They don’t care about reliability or longevity because they never keep a vehicle long enough. They will buy up this new truck immediately. The other group of buyers are those that plan on keeping a vehicle long term and care about reliability and low maintenance. Many truck owners fit in this category. They want their truck to last a long time and they don’t care about the flash and gimmicks as it’s going to get used as a truck and beat up. Toyota seems to be catering primarily to the first type with both the Tacoma and Tundra. Maybe there’s enough of the first type of Toyota Bros that they don’t need the business from the rest of us.

 

They've only been building this vehicle since 1942. Another year or two and they'll get it right.

 

Again, main driver for the Turbo 4 in the Gen 4 is all about emissions. Bottom line. As well as everyone else here in NA. Toyota's 3rd gen is the most popular Tacoma and mid size truck ever. I would expect the 4th gen to meet or exceed that with the 4th gen. Toyota must be doing something right.

 

I’m a buyer that plans on keeping the truck long term and the 4g doesn’t scare me. Outside of the turbo what about the 2.4l do you think will be problematic? I’m not worried about the hybrid setup, Toyota has a long track record of making reliable hybrid systems, the Toyota Prius is notoriously reliable. Not a fan of the electronic parking brake though. But Toyota takes a long time to adopt new technology so maybe it will be fine. There was a time when power windows, locks and other electronics were more questionable, these days nobody worries about those things. Outside of the turbo we are still getting a Toyota built engine, I’d take that any day over a Chevy or ford engine.

 

The new isodynamic seats for the speed bumps in the mall parking lot ftw. Can't wait.

 

Retiring in a few years. And yes I’ll be laughing at the poor slobs that still have to do the daily grind. Not really comparing engines, lifestyle is certainly changing, and the Tacoma won’t cut it. If they didn’t kill the access cab, might of traded in my 3G for the 4G before I retire, but they killed my favorite cab configuration. Lost about all my interest in the 4G, specs look good, but….too much, too late. DCSB are idiotic, the DCLB….might as well get a full-size, and if I am going to do that, just wait a few years and get the truck that will fit the needs for the next chapter in life. Probably keep the 3G as the runaround vehicle. Toyotas timing is off, as usual. Wait…wait….wait…finally! Meh not interested now, missed the mark for me.

Not a huge adjustment either, just going back to what I used to drive, the F350 is a lot smaller the 2.5 Ton and Mack Tri-Axle dumps we used to own. Started driving Toyota trucks for my commuter and run around vehicle since it was refreshing after sitting on backhoes and bulldozers all day.

Anyway a Tundra could work for the travel trailers I am looking at, however price wise can just get a F350, like how Ford does their rear seat storage better in their super and crew cabs. Plus I plan on a small pop up camper on the truck for week long excursions, and have the TT as a base camp. The Ford will handle all the weight better.

 

Things that are exciting

Fully boxed high strength steel frame with laser weld patches on high stress areas. Strengthened cross members for better handling and durability, I’ve dragged mine many times on the trail. This should make for a much stronger frame, something that Tacomas have struggled with in the past.

Much larger brakes, plus disc brakes on all four corners means better breaking, off road, under load and in emergency situations.

Disconnecting front sway bar for trd pro, trail hunter and off-road, this will give the truck better articulation and the CVs will be stronger to accommodate this design, good for us off-road guys.

9.5 inch ring gear in the diff to accommodate the extra torque, that’s the same size that the bulletproof 80s series uses. That’s a big upgrade IMO.

Ability to run larger tires with 33s standard from the factory on certain models. It looks like Toyota made a plate on the cab mount that is easy to take off for those of us who wish to run larger tires, and no more plastic fender liners.

coil linked rear, should make for a calmer ride, better articulation and more comfort off-road.

Payload is 1700 pounds on the trail hunter. Increased payload is something many of use have wanted for a long time, that number IMO shows how strong this new frame is and also probably why they upgraded the brakes.

Things that are disappointing:

Can’t run a high clearance rear bumper due to the hitch design.

The wheelbase got longer, the DCLB wheelbase is 4 inches longer than a gladiator and the same length as a full size

They will not offer the extra cab models in a 4x4 setup, deeply disappointing for those of us that wanted a shorter wheelbase and 6ft bed that is trail worthy.

 

Your current truck is only 7 years old????

 

When you combine those seat shocks with the removable speaker and a power tailgate. Woah!!! You can’t take my money fast enough!

 

I remember a 1960s Chrysler product that had power windows but also the ability to roll them up manually just in case of failure.

 

In the same breath, Toyota might get truck frames right, too.

 

Yes and I plan I keeping it even after I purchase a 4th gen, especially now that I’ll be locked into a DCLB or DCSB. I’m going to wait several years for the after market to develop and the kinks to get worked out. That being said I put roughly 25 on a year. That means my current truck will sit at 350,000 or more in 7 years if I continue to use my truck like I do now. 7 years is also a relatively long time compared to how long we get on this planet IMO.

 

Driving a truck for work versus one for enjoyment are two different realms, but a 250(0)+ won’t scare you then.

If I was retiring and planned on having something hooked up more often than that, there’s no way I’d not have an HD truck. I came real close to a 2500 AT4 but figured I’d see how I acclimated to a full size daily before going all in when this needs to get traded in.

 

Hopefully the newly designed frames are made with the same shitty steel and paint as the current ones.

 

Ole reliable Toyota, not changing since the 80s.

 

They did say it's the same length as a 3rd Gen but increased the wheelbase, payload increased with some trim levels around 1700 pounds, towing was reduced to 6000 for hybrids and 6500 for gas models, however nothing about price yet.

 

Haha it was probably needed back then. That being said Tesla has been criticized for not having a manual door release in case of emergency’s. I think they added them eventually but it’s not supposed to be used unless and emergency because it isn’t robust enough and will break if used too much. It’s this kind of decision making that really turns me off that brand. The lack of material quality is also appalling for its price point.

 

Yes they are. The F350 was on the list before I bought the Tacoma, figured that would most likely be the last truck I ever bought. However didn’t really want to daily drive it, since I still have a few years until I cash out. Daily I g it wouldn’t be huge deal here in Idaho since everything is wide open and huge parking lots. But those things ride like bricks. My buddy with the F350 does make fun of me for paying the same amount he did for his Ford, but he also wants to ride into town in my Taco when we go camping.

That and just don’t need that much truck right now. Basically commute 4-5 days a week, run errands, yank the dirt bike trailer up into the mountains once or twice a week if I am lucky, then do a few week long dirt bike/camping trips during the year. The Tacoma seems about perfect for that. Does get a little cramped on those week long trips, but it is only a week so I deal with it.