I'm so frustrated with my new Fox 2.5s.

The problem is he wanted to be validated in his "need" for a certain suspension setup, when low and behold the issue was as simple as it was being made out to be by various members. He was told several times that his beliefs were not correct, and to verifying alignment specs, he failed to do so.

If you want your hand held, pay someone more to build your truck for you. The only difference is those people won't make fun of you to your face, they'll do it in the shop when you leave.

 

I appreciate what you’re saying man. I promise the only times I got upset is when a handful of people came in and absolutely added nothing but pure punkness. Other than that most everybody was pretty cool. I understand it’s some people style to help with a little sarcasm added and that doesn’t bother me. I think I did a pretty good job communicating to you in my other post the challenges I had. I’m an expert at HVAC and i’m not particularly interested in become an expert at 4 x 4 pick up trucks. I did however want some guidance on how to correct some screwup‘s that I actually paid “expert” people to do. I understand you’re biased towards this forum and I appreciate that. But if you actually did read through this thread and it sounds like you did you will see that there are people all over the place with remarkably different opinions. Nothing wrong with that either as I ended up sorting it all out. You sound like a pretty cool guy and I thank you for your comments.

 

I apologize that you have poor reading comprehension. Now please understand that’s not an insult as most of us went to American public schools and have poor reading comprehension.

 

Whoopsy, you made another dumb post! I'm Canadian

The only way out of this hole is to keep digging.

 

Brother you could not be more wrong. If I were to go out to my truck right now and lower it 2 inches it would be rubbing all over again. That’s what I was insisting upon. I don’t see why this is so difficult to understand for some of you. Well only a couple of you. I’m done here.

 

Even worse. At least you feel comfortable to admit you’re Canadian. But then again we are all strangers.

 

Probably, because it's still not max caster. Improper alignment for the wheel and tire setup you chose is the problem here, not your suspension height. But hey, what does Accutune know

 

Everyone:

 

someone has to keep the shit at the bottom from burning

 

I'll try to help you @Patton250

wheeled, wheeling, etc, means to take the truck offroading. Typically, this term is used for uneven terrain and getting by obstacles and so on. Not just driving on a flat dirt road.

When wheeling you cycle your suspension through its full range of motion; stuffing (going up) or drooping (going down) of the wheels. You do not do this to this on flat roads. You are not rubbing anymore driving around town, congrats. You said if you lowered 2" you'd be rubbing. So, @clg is correct by saying if you wheeled it you'd probably rub again. In other words, while wheeling you would stuff your tires, pushing your wheel 2" up. Make sense?

If you don't intend on wheeling your truck, then it doesn't matter.

If you are more of a visual person here are photo examples. Look at front passenger tire locations.

Resting position; flat roads


Stuffed; see how wheel is pushed up



You're new to this, so its understandable if you don't get what people have been saying. However, when some of the responses have irritated you, by lashing back out at them you are throwing gasoline on the fire. Some were messing with you because you're new (lighten up, don't take it serious) and others were dead on with their advice and trying to help but you didn't understand their logic (which is ok). Recommend you just ignore the ones messing with you in fun because you're a noob (we all were once), and ask questions when you don't understand responses (without being defensive). Lashing back out is diggging you in deeper. I recommend just putting down that shovel. TW is such a great resource. If you don't take some responses personally and don't get all defensive, you'll get so much more out of it.

 

Hey guys and gals, new to the forum. But this title got me and I had to post.
So I have 2019 pro with fox 2.5 w RR front and back. SPC UCAs. Deaver stage 2 in the rear with over 400lbs constant weight in the back.I have CBI bumper and winch as well as CaliRaised skids. I'm beyond frustrated with my lift. I lost lift after adding bumper and winch. Called Fox they told me to talk to accutune. Accutune told me to change out to 14 inch 600 pd springs and that will allow me to carry an extra 300 lb on the front which will cover what I've added. They also told me to make sure the measurement of the shock wasn't more than 21 inches from center of bottom bolt to top hat. I still feel like a lift isn't very much. I have about 1 in of threads showing now. I'm rubbing a bit and I didn't have this problem before. But also have rake which I don't remember having. They say if I go over the 21 inches I won't have much down travel. Any thoughts? Suggestions? I'm frustrated to the point where I'm about to change suspension I don't get this resolved. Lol

 

so what is the current shock length at its ride height?

 

21 inches is what it's measuring from center of bottom bolt to lip of tophat

 

Bummer. That really is the ideal shock length at ride height. Some guys on here have gone up another 1/4 to 1/2” just to get the trucks closer to level but going too high you will start to notice the reduction in down travel.

 

Ya I don't get it unless my shocks were set higher before the new bumper, winch and 14 in springs. I'm running 285s and have since my first lift which was the westcott lift on the Fox factory's. I didn't have any rubbing issues then that I know of.. That's why this is confusing. But I want the shocks to ride as good as possible so maybe I just gotta live with it for now..
I just see other trucks with a similar setup and same shocks that look like the front end is higher.

I'll get it realigned and see if I can get more. Caster out of the SPCs.. and if I got to do a body mount chop then I will. From what I read the deavers have a 2 inch lift If you have a constant way to 4 to 600 lb... Which I do.... So I don't understand why the rear is over an inch higher than the front ...

Thanks for the reply and input!

 

So my only suggestion would be to go to a scale and see actual weight for front and rear axles. This way you will know your real front weight. Maybe you want 650lb springs. Idk. I run 700s on my kings but I didn’t look at your total build.

 

CBI dakar bumper 120lbs
Warn 10s winch 80 lbs
Lights maybe 5-10 lbs
Skid 50lbs

I was expecting to go with a heavier weight spring but accutune suggested going from 13 to 14 inch 600 lb. So that's what I did...

 

You don’t need to sit level, 1-2” of rake is good for driving manners and sets up your bed to accommodate heavier loads at which point it will ride closer to level. If you were sitting level when static your truck would ride nose high under load. That said, the rear springs will break in and settle a bit. What is your measurement from middle of hub to bottom of fender? What is your current caster? Shoot for 3.5 degrees or greater and don’t be afraid to flatten the pinch weld and trim plastic.

 

I won't be adding much more bed weight as I already have decked drawers loaded, bed rack and RTT.
Center of hub to fender flare is 22 7/8 ..Good to know on the 3.5 degrees....thanks for that info! And I do have plans to do a body mount chop and flatten pinch weld as I will be changing wheels at some point with more offset so I need to do that for sure.