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Rofl, that guy literally ignores everything that doesn't meet his agenda. It really is a better place here to ignore him instead.

Fwiw $2.2M is a drop in the bucket for the government. Still, I doubt your average ev is heavier than a suburban, which is readily available.

And good to hear on rivian. I'm hopeful for that company, it's good to see another American manufacture getting started.

 

Yea I’m thinking somebody pitched a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

High security stuff doesn’t use arm gates so the idea of a EV blasting thru a gate is some new threat is bullshit.

 

Well he waits for EV car crashes only so he can do a "I told you so" post.

 

There is no agenda. What agenda could I possibly have? You are just demonstrating the break down in society and civility. I just brought attention to the solution searching for a problem. That would most likely get funding anyhow, I'm completely neutral on the funding. EV do pose a different risk than ice vehicles, the people in charge of security do have to evaluate those unique challenges, that have more to do with litium ion batteries. The need for different barriers to stop an EV has never crossed my mind.

 

DoD already has the tools to stop an EV. Just break out the directional EMP.

 

FIFY

That said, I kind of doubt such a thing as a car stopping directional EMP even exists. The physics nerd in me starts thinking about the inverse square law and faraday cages. What would be really useful is a troll stopper. I've blocked the one in this thread that still lives in his mom's basement, now if people would stop quoting the pathetic thing.

And here's some EV related news
https://markets.businessinsider.com...e-cuts-model-y-investing-analysis-2023-7?op=1

• Tesla's stock price jumped 7% Monday.
• Those gains came after aggressive price cuts helped the EV maker post record quarterly delivery numbers.
• "This was another trophy case quarter for Musk and co.," Wedbush analyst Dan Ives said.

 

https://markets.businessinsider.com...-to-this-as-real-worry-going-ahead-1032427712

Unit shares

Gross margins

Opening up the network a negative to gross margins.

 

Toyota Claims Breakthrough That Will Lead To 745-Mile EV Battery
The Japanese automaker says it will soon be able to manufacture a solid-state pack that can charge in 10 minutes

Still not acceptable to the EV haters probably...

Toyota Claims Breakthrough That Will Lead To 745-Mile EV Battery (insideevs.com)

 

If history is any indication this new battery will likely use some small amount of a petroleum based compound and the EV haters will come out of the woodwork to complain about the environmental impact of using said petroleum based compound...

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On topic. 10 minute charging of an efficient 745 mile car would need to charge around 900kW. Megawatt charging is something Tesla claims to do today (or almost) and will be on the Cybertruck. I'm surprised the chargers can do that, the resistance in the cable (heat) alone is a major issue. As for the batter taking that much energy, especially near the top, is pretty impressive.

 

They make liquid cooled cables for commercial chargers.

But yeah those battery specs might be obtainable in some cases, but you’ll never see that fast at home.

 

Except for some wacky edge cases fast charging at home just isn't needed. People sleep and the car can charge just fine over night.

 

That would be exceptional.

I really hope this comes to fruition soon but I'm not holding my breath. I wonder if this could be widely available to the public in 5-7 years? I'd defiantly buy one if it was. I'd sell my current 3rd gen gasser for a 4th or 5th gen with this SS battery, even if I had to charge overnight at home instead of possibly a 10 min charge at a super charging station.

Imagine a day when gas stations are all converted to "energy stations". Conceivably a number of charging stations that will charge your SS battery in 10 minutes! Maybe a row of hydrogen over there. May even be a legacy gas pump somewhere off in the corner.

 

All the major car mfg are NOW working on SS fast charging batteries and some are testing a charging innovation from a Michigan company that has proven to charge current EV batteries 0-80% in sub 10min times. This will happen sooner than anyone thinks.

 

That would be awesome. Hopefully science and engineering can save us from ourselves.

 

You say charging overnight at home like that should be the second choice over going to a charging station. Home charging is a game changer for those that can do it. Other than road trips I never do anything but home charge. Every morning I awake to a fully charged car that required zero effort on my part, well other than plugging it in. Drive some place to charge, you've got to be kidding.

As for hydrogen that's never going to happen, except in Toyota's delusional mind. Why no hydrogen you ask? Money. Hydrogen is stupid inefficient which makes it super expensive. There are a number of ways to make hydrogen in industrial quantities, one is to - Use large amounts of electricity to break water into hydrogen and oxygen. Then use even more electricity to compress and cool it into a liquid at -423 F. Then finally convert the hydrogen back into electricity to move a car. See what I mean, stupid inefficiency. Why not just store the electricity in a battery that moves a car?

 

Yes, I was thinking along the lines if home chargers are not readily available and capable to do 10 min charging, hell I’d be happy with an overnight charge for 745 a mile charge.

Yes, I’ve watched video’s regarding Hydrogen fuel and the hurdles it faces to be a practical alternative to gasoline. I was merely suggesting that gas stations become “energy stations” in the future. In whatever form alternative energy takes. All progress being made in alternative fuels is rapidly developing/changing. Definitely charging stations and perhaps a commercial application for Hydrogen along with legacy gas pumps at a “energy station”. I think we need big oil to help with change. Be part of the solution. Provide those “energy stations” of the future. However, just some of my random thoughts. Take it with a grain of salt.

So, I have no idea if Hydrogen will ever take off. But the status quo is not working and we’re running out of time IMO. Maybe science and engineering can overcome this one day?

 

Makes sense, unless you happen to have charging at work for free (as my nephew does). He has a home setup as well and does use it when needed but otherwise why spend his money if he can get it free at work?

 

Walmart is switching their warehouse and store use vehicles to hydrogen using the Green Hydrogen method. Solar, wind, hydro only power to produce hydrogen.

 

I believe in Norway or Finland all EV charging is free, even public chargers, as they use profit from sales of oil and gas to subsidise EV charging infrastructure and free charging for all EV owners.

 

Here's the article on how 15 current auto makers are testing StoreDot fast EV charging tech.... I'm thinking Toyota is on board with StoreDot with their recent announcement of 700 mile range batteries and fast charging.

https://insideevs.com/news/632130/15-brands-testing-storedot-ev-battery-breakthrough/