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Advice wanted: Increasing rim size from 15" to 17"

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Lord Kanti, Jul 8, 2023.

  1. Jul 8, 2023 at 1:46 AM
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    Lord Kanti

    Lord Kanti [OP] BlackJack Taco

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    I love how my truck sits on 15x8 American Eagles (AR58 - American Racing?) with a -30 offset wrapped in 32x11.5 tires, but one of my tires got tapped by a stray driver and split the bead on one of the rims. The body shop won't do work until they know the axel is straight and the alignment shop needs me to have 4 equal tires (my spare is different). My KO2 tires are down to 4-6/32nds (one has much more tread and can be a spare) and the tire shop says there's no real benefit to staying at 15x8.

    >"a world of tires will open up at 17""

    My concern is being able to run an equal or larger tire (height and width) without having to modify the truck (much). it came "factory lifted" with Bilstein 5100s (just replaced the one's in the rear) and I don't know what else to be honest. I like the look and feel of 11.5 wide tires offset -30mm. My driver seat is ass height and I like the look and feel of the current stance minus the mounted spare tire sucked into the body.

    I want to add Tunda brakes and possibly a Tundra rear axle in the future and I've heard most 17" rims can handle a brake swap.

    Other concerns: weight and price. I'm hoping I might find some secondhand TRD wheels for cheap, but I have no idea what to look for or what offset Toyota used. I really don't want to spend $2400 for new tires and rims because the insurance is only covering ONE. I've also been reluctant to increase the rim size due to added weight, but quicker braking could make up for that, especially if I can find lightweight rims.

    Also, 17x8 with a negative 30 offset is near impossible to find. What's up with that? I think the most I saw at one shop was -12 or -19. (unless it was a 17x7 and the guy was confused?)

    Anyways, I'm hoping for some good advice so I can turn this loss into an opportunity. Thanks!

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    (pic for reference)
     
  2. Jul 8, 2023 at 4:39 AM
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    Rachelsdaddy

    Rachelsdaddy Well-Known Member

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    My 99 had 15's and I found a set of second gen 17's on Craigslist, they sit way further in, I will take a pic later. They sit similar to the picture on the left. I personally don't like the look, the tires nearly rub the upper c/a and they nearly hit the frame at full turn . I went w/ 17's cuz I want Tundra brakes as well. I bought a set of 1.125 spacers but haven't put them on yet. If that doesn't get me the look and clearance I want, back to 15's... 31x 10.5 I kinda like the smaller tires anyway on a small lift, cool to see the fenders, header suspension and frame. Don't get hung up on spacers, they are technically stronger than a machined offset.
     
  3. Jul 8, 2023 at 4:46 AM
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    Rachelsdaddy

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    Regarding the weight, disregard the weight. Seriously
     
  4. Jul 8, 2023 at 5:52 PM
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    Winkle99

    Winkle99 Don't Look Back

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    Here is some 17” wheel info for you.

    I switched from the 15” stock aluminum alloy wheels to this wheel and tires combo:
    • Black 4Runner (PTR20-35110-BK) TRD wheels
    • 275 70 R17 (32.2") BF Goodrich KO2 replaced with
    • 275 70 R17 (32.2") Toyo Open Country AT3
      • I like the K02s, just trying out the Toyos because their spec sheet says they weigh less.


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    Regarding clearance, I performed the pinch weld mod. I get a tiny bit of frame rub when the front tires are fully compressed and fully turned otherwise they clear.

    Here is a post when I switched from KO2s to the Toyos:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/winkle99-build-thread.511998/page-7#post-28144323

    I performed the Tundra brake upgrade:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/winkle99-build-thread.511998/#post-20104494

    Hope this helps.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2023
  5. Jul 10, 2023 at 5:25 PM
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    Lord Kanti

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    This confirms what I found from 1986 - 2023 Toyota 4Runner Wheels and Rims | Hubcap Haven

    I manually searched as many rims as possible and found these to be at the top of the list with minimal offset (4), the only issue is finding them for sale at a reasonable price. There are a few other models with the same offset but I am not sure if they will work since I didn't see them listed on the tundra brake mod list.

    According to My outer sidewall will be sucked in 1.5" and with 285/70/17 tires I will be 1.19" closer on the inside with the diameter reaching .35" closer to the fender walls. I have fiberglass up front and it looks like that pinch weld might be an issue when the wheel is pushed up mid-turn but on level ground should be okay according to my ruler, but after reading what you said about 275 70 R17 tires I now have my doubts.

    I found these pro-comps that might work. I think they are the 7005 model but I don't know the offset. It looks like several rims have this design but with different specs.

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    355540061_6269378486508806_4211378302536_2ec98f594ef6b5724b2b7cee86d905753f611c10.jpg

    My eyes can't focus on that lower number if there are clues to be found within it. Hopefully the seller knows the offset.

    It seems like 285-65R17 or even 285-70R16 are wide and might not rub, but the product selection is slim :(
     
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  6. Jul 10, 2023 at 5:49 PM
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    treyus30

    treyus30 70% complete 70% of the time

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    I'm sorry, what's the problem? Go buy a new wheel? Also +1.1cm isn't that bad
     

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