FN Overlander Wheels spec A and B , show em if you got em

Nice wheels!

is there a 16 inch version?

 

Not made by FN.

You have two 16" choices from Toyota; UK made now NLA/Discontinued/Obsolete TRD Beadlocks or the brand new North American-made TRD Taco Alloy.

 

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...e-still-in-production-new-part-number.786141/

 

I meant the fn overland

 

I purchased a set of these FN Wheels from Dustin a few months ago. They are pretty good quality. Also got good service from Dustin

 

Yes I know. But the FN Overland is a 17" copy of the 16" TRD beadlock.

 

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Thank you! Right now we only offer the Overlander in 17". Initially our thoughts were that the Toyota OEM wheel is plenty good in 16", so we didn't need to develop a 16" version as well.

The purpose of our wheel was to fill the void left by Toyota for customers who are looking for a similar design in 17" to fit over larger brakes that require 17" diameter wheels and also to open up a wider range of tire choices for customers since 16" tire choices are pretty limited these days.

Thank you!

 

I wanted to share some more images with you all
as well:

17x8.5" FN Wheels Overlander Spec A

 

17x8.5" FN Wheels Overlander Spec B with machined trim:

 

17x8.5" FN Wheels Overlander Spec B with matte black trim:

 

Love these! Just wish they were narrower and had a removable trim ring

 

Thanks!

There are pros and cons to having a removable ring. The removable rings trap water and debris in the wheel, the bolts can seize, and the ring itself costs about 1/3 to 1/2 the price of the entire wheel. The pro to a removable simulated beadlock ring is that you can replace the ring if it becomes damaged, but then again if the bolts become seized that point almost becomes mute.

We elected to make the ring non-removable to avoid the cons and keep the price per wheel down, but I definitely understand that some people like the idea of a removable ring.

We offer a version without the ring (Overlander Spec A) for our customers who don't want the ring, so that they don't have a bunch of empty holes on the face of the wheel, and we offer two different finishes for the Overlander Spec B wheels which have the simulated beadlock ring : machined aluminum ring or matte black ring. We tried to cover something for everyone with the color / finish combinations.

 

Yeah, on my scale the pros/cons weigh the other direction. I don't have ANY concern about water/debris, corrosion, seizure or stripped holes - those are all things that aren't a factor if you take care of your things. (I've had the OEM version of this wheel for a while now and after living with them I don't get others complaints about these potential issues.) But I care greatly about being able to remove/replace/refinish the rings. But I get it, I'm probably the oddball here and you gotta make decisions based on more than just some keyboard warrior over here.

 

Not to be a dink, but you live in CA... Try living in the salt belt. I do, and it fucking sucks:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/stripped-m8x1-0-bolts-on-trd-wheels-ideas.806058/

Edit: To be clear I still like the removable rings. But your sentence of "if you take care of your things" is not true in other parts of the country. Unless you plan on taking the rings off and cleaning them every time it snows..

 

I ultimately decided to purchase the FN wheels vs the Toyota 16" beadlocks. When my dad purchased his 2013 Tundra, I purchased him a set of the TRD Rock Warrior Beadlocks while he never had any issues (other than a couple of times missing a couple/few of the bolts which was easily replaceable). However I didn't need/understand the reason to need the removable rings other than like you said replace/refinish/remove for aesthetics.

Ultimately I decided to get the FN version based on they came in 17's I have a 09 dclb and I always though 16's looked to small on the dclb.
Some things I wished was offered:

narrower width/less aggressive offset
the gray had an option to come in a satin/matte finish

Other than those 2 wish list items I'm overall happy with my purchase. I've been tinkering with cars for the past 27 years and dealt with many aftermarket companies/shops and have never received the kind of service I received from Dustin / FN Wheels.

 

Depends on your perspective I suppose. If I lived in those areas I'd have dedicated winter wheels. Actually, probably a dedicated winter beater and keep the nicer vehicles stored away and out of danger. That's how I'd "take care of my things." Many other people do this, it's not that crazy of a thing to do.

I passed up a couple sets of the Rock Warriors because I already had my "beadlocks" and personally think they look WAY better. That said, I regret not buying a set of Rock Warriors because now the only sets I see for sale are insanely priced and not worth it.

The fact that they're so easily refinished is a huge pro for me and long term it's a money saver too. It's surprisingly easy to refinish these lock rings. 30-60 seconds with sanding disk on a die grinder then 1-2min with a buffing wheel on a bench grinder and it looks almost good as new. Assuming the damage wasn't too severe of course. And even pretty big gouges can be sanded then polished so they at least they aren't visible unless you're a foot away. Similar damage to a wheel without the removable ring would require repainting or powder coating and that's usually at least $100/wheel but most of the time. Plus, good luck getting them to refinish one wheel and have it match your other 3, so now you're refinishing 4 wheels or just stuck left with a scratch.

 

It's definitely a personal decision, and I can understand why someone might feel one way or the other. However, like the @SR-71A mentioned, it is not simply a matter of taking care of your things. Your point of view is very specific to the climate and the part of the country that you live in. In different climates in other parts of the country where salt is an issue and where the weather is freezing for days on end, it's not always practical or even possible to wash your wheels immediately.

When you mention maintaining the rings, are you regularly taking the ring off, cleaning the threaded holes on the wheel, cleaning the threads on the bolts that hold the ring to the wheel, replacing the nylon washers, and putting fresh Loctite onto the bolts? That seems like a lot of work, and I wouldn't consider it reasonable to expect that an owner to go through that regularly to ensure that they bolts don't seize. Not to mention that you have to be very careful not to overtighten the bolts, since stripping or damaging the bolts and/or the wheels on the OEM 16" TRD Baja wheels is very easy to do.

Case in point:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/stripped-m8x1-0-bolts-on-trd-wheels-ideas.806058/ (Tacoma TRD Baja wheels)

https://www.tundras.com/threads/stuck-torx-fasteners-for-rock-warrior-wheels.81301/ (Tundra Rock Warrior wheels, but the concept is identical to the Baja wheels)

Again, I have nothing against the 16" TRD OEM Baja wheels. In fact, I think they are excellent wheels (at least the ones that were made by Team Dynamics from a few years back were excellent wheels - I haven't yet had my hands on the new version that Toyota re-released). However, since this thread is about our Overlander wheels I definitely feel the need to clarify why we make our wheels the way that we do.

Thank you again for your order! I really appreciate the feedback and the kind words!

I just wanted to provide a little background on why we offer the wheels in these particular specs and colors:

We decided on an 8.5" rim width to allow for a variety of tire sizes. An 8.5" rim width is approved for use with 255mm thru 315mm (12.50") tire widths, and we wanted our customers to have this versatility from the wheel. 255mm tire width (10" wide) and 265mm width (10.5" wide) might appear to be a little narrow on an 8.5" rim, but they can be safely installed per all tire manufacturer specs sheets. The 8.5" rim width also gives you the ability to go up to 275mm, 285mm, 295mm, 305mm and 315mm widths. A narrower rim width would work fine with skinnier tires, but it would be a limiting factory for those who want to go with wider tires. Likewise, a wider rim width would work well at the wider end of the spectrum, but it would prevent you from installing narrower tires. We've found that 8.0" or 8.5" rim widths are optimal for the majority of Tacoma, 4Runner and FJ Cruiser owners (all three vehicles share the same front suspension).

Regarding the colors, you are correct in that we offer a gloss graphite gunmetal in the Overlander Spec A (no simulated beadlock) and Overlander Spec B with machined aluminum simulated beadlock.

We do offer a matte gunmetal option, but only in the Overlander Spec B with matte black simulated beadlock.

Since we offer matte black and matte bronze in both the Overlander Spec A and Overlander Spec B, we wanted to offer a gloss gunmetal finish as glossy alternative to all of the matte wheels. Had we made the gunmetal matte, all three color options would have matte clear coats, and we also like to give our customers a gloss clear coat option.

The Overlander Spec B with matte black simulated beadlock has a matte gunmetal center, because we think that matte gunmetal matches better with the matte trim. I've included a few example pictures below.

However, if we receive enough customer demand for matte gunmetal in either the Spec A or Spec B with machined aluminum simulated beadlock, we can always add a new finish option. As it stands right now, we offer 8 color configurations for the Overlander wheels.

Thanks again for your feedback and support @jspec rsx . I really appreciate you taking the time to write those kind words and to thank me by name. We wouldn't be in business without customers like you. Please feel free to post pictures of your truck. We'd love to see it!

-Dustin

 

These look so good! I love my FN 5 stars. On that note is it possible to get flat center caps like these for my -25 five stars?

 

You're correct that most people in the harsher climates have a dedicated set of winter wheels and tires, but for one reason or another their summer wheels are often still exposed to salty roads which will eventually lead to some form of corrosion.

Also, for a lot people their Tacoma, 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, Tundra, etc. is their winter vehicle because of the reliability, durability and utility, and/or because they can't afford a "dedicated winter beater." The idea of a winter beater is somewhat subjective too. How "beat-up" would this beater be? If the vehicle is super beat-up, then it might be dangerous to drive it in the harsh winter months. If the vehicle is not super beat, then presumably it would be more expensive and maybe not a beater at all. It's not unreasonable to think that people in harsh climates should be able to drive their primary 4WD truck year round. I'm here in Southern California just like you @clenkeit , but we have to consider our customers' needs all over the country (actually all over the world), not just in the more temperate parts.

To be clear, I'm also not insinuating that our wheels (or any wheels) would be immune to excessive exposure to salt. Salt will eventually destroy everything that it touches if left unabated. What I am saying, however, is that we tried to design the lip/simulated beadlock on our wheel to drain better than the OEM TRD Baja wheels, and because of all the issues with the OEM bolts seizing on the ring we felt that it would be an improvement to make two versions of the wheel - one without a ring at all (Overlander Spec A) and one with a non-removable ring (Overlander Spec B), since the majority of customers can't or won't want to deal with removing their ring regularly anyway.

How do you maintain the clear coat on the OEM simulated beadlock rings after you sand them down? The OEM rings that I handled in the past were clear coated to prevent oxidation. Do you respray your rings after you sand them down? That would be another expenditure of time and money to take into consideration. I'm not saying it couldn't or shouldn't be done, but since this has turned into a discussion about how easy it is to refinish the OEM wheels I just want to make sure we're clear on this. If you sand down the OEM simulated beadlock rings and don't clear coat them they will be prone to oxidizing pretty quickly (even in temperate Southern California).

Again, I have absolutely nothing against the 16" OEM TRD Baja (aka simulated beadlock wheels), so much so that to this day we give customers the OEM part # and refer them to their local Toyota dealership if they're looking for the same design in 16".

We made our wheel in a 17" version to offer better brake clearance and to give our customers an expanded selection of tire choices. We made a decision to have a fixed, permanent simulated beadlock ring on our Spec B version of the Overlander based on our research and after consulting Toyota dealership customers as well as Toyota truck owners and listening to their complaints abou the OEM 16" wheels.

I sincerely appreciate the feedback and discussion @clenkeit . I think it has helped to showcase more information about both wheels. I know that sometimes tone and nuance are lost in translation when we post online or write an email, and I don't want my posts to come off as abrasive or argumentative.