1st Gen Lunchtable Thread - General Discussion

Know from experience?

 

This truck can be fun to drive if I'm in the right mood, but man it can be a real chore to commute in a lot of the time with all the NVH.

 

Too bad they still haven't fixed the unequal track widths. In the videos I've seen, they don't flex for shit off road either. I'll leave them to the miners and NGOs.

 

I'd lean the latter

 

A Toyota warranty isn't worth a damn to me. I just learned they only pay half time on warranty work, so the techs are probably gonna phone it in or mess something up trying to beat the clock.

 

Pulling 30 amps on startup

 

Ok, I have to interject; what?

 

The hydrogen molecule kind

 

I heard from a Toyota tech that Toyota only pays dealerships half the book time for warranty repairs, i.e. a timing cover leak that would normally book for 12 hours would only pay put for 6, so the techs really get screwed.

 

Ok so the stock aluminum trays are super ugly.

But a LHD double cab 79 series with a manual and a nicer tray would be crazy. And in theory it could be done since there have been many 70 series LHD trucks made. At least compared to a vehicle that has only ever been sold in a RHD configuration.

 

All this hype around the new LC is academic since nobody will be able to afford them until 2045, at least I won't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp5coc9exZg

 

Ok, one...warranty pay to a dealership is far less than the actual time it takes many times to fix said issue so yes there's that part of it.

This is industry standard by the way.

Since you just learned about this, I'll shed light on the remaining info you are unaware of.

There are techs at different levels, at different pay grades, for different reasons.

You cannot be successful as a franchise dealer if all your techs are master mechanics; this means you will either lose out on the *many* small jobs that come in whether it's minor repair or maintenance, or you will have pissed off experienced techs walking out because they're not making enough based on the work provided.

Two, many of your 'lube techs' are doing the warranty work. They do this to move up in the ranks, gain experience, and certify to higher levels. A shop foreman, or an experienced tech, normally oversees the work and jumps in when help is needed.

With that said, no job, whether it's warranty work or not, is the only job a tech has at any given time.

Normally they have a bay with a vehicle downed, while they work on another and switch on and off. That's how you truly become effective as a tech, and move up in 'efficiency' meaning you can do the work in the time Alldata states or less.

Your 90% guys are your top money makers, and normally put on customer pay jobs where they can knock out a 20 hour labor job in only 15 hours, pocketing the rest that was charged.

That, is how a service department runs.

 

Lame sauce, i really hope this doesnt turn out to be a electrical gremlin chase

How would i tell? Me dumb


I do think i smelt exhaust fumes this morning when i got the limp pedal

 

Just redownloaded the app so ill check some of the widgets, it should. Doesn't take long for what to happen, happen. It does noticably get worse the longer my trips driving are. By the end im fighting it from sputtering and dying off a launch and in higher rpms. Like riding the clutch heavy into first lol

 

Imma press X to doubt on that one.

When i was a factory trained tech, they did pay two different levels on warranty work but that was determined by your certifications. That was because a shop only needed one gold level tech and anyone else could be silver, but if one of the silvers did a warranty repair they'd get paid less due to less experience.

Granted I may be wrong cause that was a Stihl dealership and not toyota, but I'd be damned if capitalism treats a lawn equipment tech better than a vehicle tech

 

Thanks for the info. I've heard some techs complain a lot about flat rate, or sometimes having to do diag work at a discount or even for free. Just cause an experienced tech diagnoses an issue in 10 min when a newb would take 2 hours doesn't mean the former should have to take a pay cut. Sometimes you come out ahead though, like you said.

 

I think this was the vid I listened to where the former tech was explaining it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZmWk-vdohs

 

Correct.

But there's good reason for the 'free diag' and that sort of thing.

The tech that gets a shit deal, is normally because he or she isn't as good as they can be (or should be).

So they still need to make their way up the ranks.

Bottom line, my point is that yes you can hugely benefit from a warranty. You are the epitome of a customer that needs it.

However the dealership pays their techs is pointless to you as a customer and here's a big reason why -

1. Go backs; especially for warranty work any vehicles that come back due to a failed initial repair counts somewhat as a negative mark against that dealership

2. Faulty diagnosis aren't the fault of the tech that worked on it (most times) and this is because warranty diag will tell the tech what he or she must do as part of the diag process unless physical evidence is clearly present and photographs can be submitted as part of the warranty claim on the dealership end IE burned wire, etc

 

That really sounds like a vacuum issue to me, shit expands when it gets hot. Vacuum leak gets worse the longer you drive. That's my drunk correlation

I'd smoke test it. You can macgyvery yourself one with a sock, mineral oil, Mason jar, fish air pump with tubing, soldering iron and some tenacity