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2019 Brake drum removal

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by dmq400, Aug 22, 2023.

  1. Aug 22, 2023 at 2:30 PM
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    dmq400

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    I see nothing current on this on any channel. Apparently 2nd gen? tacomas had threaded holes in the drum where you could screw in a 12M bolt and push the drum off. This 2019 has nothing like it. It does have numerous holes in the drum (about 5/16") but they are NOT threaded. Anyone have the trick here in getting these 60K mile drums off for the first time? Thanks -Dan
     
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  2. Aug 22, 2023 at 2:33 PM
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    My drums on my 2019 have threaded holes,, I know because I needed them to remove the drums for brake inspection.
     
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  3. Aug 22, 2023 at 2:34 PM
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    Welcome To TW...Get a Hammer
     
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    Your E-brake is not on is it?

    I know a guy:anonymous:
     
  5. Aug 22, 2023 at 2:48 PM
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    The two smaller holes should be tapped 8mm x 1.25

    Tap around the drum with a steel hammer.

    Slowly tighten bolts thread into those tapped holes to help "pop" the drum loose.

    If it doesn't come off, you may need to back off the brakes with a "brake spoon."

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    Memories of me being a dumbass teenager blowing all dust off the shoes and drums (50 years ago, asbestos brake shoe days).
     
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  6. Aug 22, 2023 at 5:32 PM
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    Suggest you back off the shoes with the brake tool from behind. They wear a groove int9 the drum and even using bolts to pry it off is a challenge.
     
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    The threads are there. There's a few holes, only one or maybe two have the threads. They do get filed with dirt and corrosion so they're not always easy to spot. Are you looking to take them off to inspect things or are you having a problem with them?
     
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  9. Aug 23, 2023 at 7:12 AM
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    its threaded. And like another said, be sure your parking brake is off :anonymous: took me way too long to figure that one out
     
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    I never use the threaded holes...just smack the face with a 3lb sledge until it is loose and then work it off. One piece of advise, put the lugs on the studs before swinging the mallet.
     
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    Been there, done that. I also learned to put either wheel grease or antiseize on the center hub. This way the drum doesn’t bind on it.
     
  12. Aug 24, 2023 at 1:32 PM
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    Don’t use a hammer to try and beat off brake drums. That’s just a great way to crack them.

    As drum brakes wear, the shoes create a lip toward the outer edge of the brake drum. This lip essentially creates a wide groove that the brake shoe rides in. If you get enough wear, no matter how much beating, that lip will catch the edge of the brake shoe.

    The thing to do is to remove the plug use a screwdriver or better yet a brake spoon and back off the adjuster one to two turns.

    Once you do that the brake drum will come off easy peasy.
     
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    This schematic looks identical to the drum brake setup for the 2nd gen. I gather it uses the same 8mm x 1.25 bolts ?
     
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    Correct.
     
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    Thanks :thumbsup:
     
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    When replacing drum brakes I chamfer the outer sharp edge of the shoe slightly to make removal easier, cleaning the edge of the drum will also, help before installing.
     
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    During my lifetime as a Ford and Jeep Tech (Been retired for a while now) a large brass hammer hitting around the outside edge of a drum has never failed me. Brass is very forgiving. I can't see any threads in a thin brake drum face being strong enough to push a seized drum off. Perhaps to assist if not stuck. If brakes shoes are the cause usually you would know because of the springs allowing some kind of walking movement.
     
  18. May 16, 2024 at 7:23 PM
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    Definitely a hammer
     
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    Beating on the drum is not the right answer.

    The shoes essentially wear a groove in the drum surface. This leaves a lip on the outer edge of the contact surface. Backing the adjuster off and allowing the drum to slip past.

    Adjusting the shoes is much easier, and smarter than beating the shit out of a drum.
     
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    My drums have been on there for 10 years now so the threads on the drum to use bolts to press the drum off are probably toast.
    But was thinking, if I get new drums I would fill those with some high temp grease or something similar. And every time i swap over my summer/winter wheels I could touch them up if needed.

    When I had my honda odyssey I knew the disk brake rotor retaining screws could be so hard to remove that you generally had to drill them out. In the first week I got ahead of that issue by removing and giving them a coat of anti seize. You can certainly live without them but years down the line when I needed new rotors they came out with no effort at all.
     

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