Axle relocation plates with overload leaf?

Has anyone installed axle relocation plates with the stock overload leaf?

Or even if not, does where the plates will end up setting at the curve of the leaf look ok?
Seems to me that when I go to tighten everything down, that’ll tweak the leaf up in the front.

It has been suggested to remove that leaf & add one or two more. Not necessarily for this purpose. Just in general. Have I listened? Well, yes. Just a little stubborn at times, I guess….

 

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I often get asked why I’m doing something. Nothing wrong with that. Just think I’ll explain - Not only are the wheels set back, the slip yoke is pulled out farther than it was & the shackles are being pushed back a little too far.
I added a short leaf & just swapped it out for a longer one.

Could add the shorter one back to the pack. Springs are only a couple of yrs young.

kinda started with the 5100 ome coilovers (if stock is 20”, I got a 2in front lift) & not making the best choice in spring manufacturer. If I had done the springs after the coilovers, I would have done a heavy duty pack. Would that have kept the wheels centered? I don’t know. Seems to me if this were the case, simply adding leafs til I got to 23.5 or 24” in the rear would solve it.

& then of course, driveshaft angles will need attention.

 

Why do you need to move your axle??

It sure sounds some how you managed to get either the wrong springs or wrong shackles .

You might be the only person that has luck worse then mine.

At anytime did you compare your old springs with the ones you installed ? Any more getting the wrong parts in the correct box with the correct number is far to common.

They were changed a few years ago ,only now it is a problem??

i know I would fix this but Good luck trying to fix things in this fashion.

Is there anything left that has not been replaced or rebuilt yet??

 

I measured them when I got them & since then springs have been measured by both the local spring shop & driveline place. Spring shop checked from front to back & only found a sway bar link that needing swapping out.

shackles were purchased from the same spring place whilst my truck was right there.

driveshaft has been balanced.

This is not an uncommon problem with 1st gens. From all I’ve read on here, not much rhyme or reason. It’s not say, the 1st yr models only. & it’s not the brand of springs. It does seem to have a common thread of some sort of a lift. Even then though, someone can do a lift & be fine & another can do the same & be off….

That’s my take on it anyway.

 

oh, & I added an explanation in post 3. Might answer your 1st question

 

I have not ever experienced it does not mean it can not happen.

Axle ends up shifted left or right that happens . Not pushed back a few inches from the spring hanger to the center pin without increasing the distance.

If you did not buy from new no telling what might have been done always fun finding these things out years later.

Best of luck getting this mess fixed.

 

Why do you have a "block", and how is it a "stock overleaf". That implies you are just messing with a completely stock leaf pack.

It's only if you lift the rear that you'll want to address angling a tad and that's where shims come into play.



That block, or relocation bracket, is just a bad idea and useless. Seems like a way to put a band aid to make up for something else that's causing issue. But you said stock leaf pack so idk?

 

@Kristi with a K feels that the rear axle has been pushed back from where it needs to be with all the correct parts in place.

MY brain is to Hot it is reducing output!

 

And what exactly was this conclusion based on?

The axle can move back and forth, but settles in place where it needs to when using the appropriate length leaf pack.

The leaf pack will sit on the axle with the use of the locating pin and it all gets bolted up with u-bolts.

Again the OP said stock (but stock overload, unsure what that means) so unless the wrong rear shackle was used or the incorrect leaf pack, everything should be kosher.

However, if a lift was installed in the rear that's where a shim can be used.

 

She says it is a common first generation problem .

I have learned I can never win an argument with a woman . Since most go by Always Right!!

 

And trucks are neither male or female

I've only been on this forum going on 4 years now but have never heard of this being a "common issue".

Again, in the event of a lift...then yes a little common but shims are used as I mentioned above to remedy angle and new vibration. Tons of threads on this.

 

Wow vehicles indeed have gender !! If you name them how can they not.

How you can not know this is strange .

Might be from naming horses I might interchange them and get confused .

I do sometimes forget i do not have a 53' trailer behind me.

 

Sorry Kristi me and Kwikvette tend to get side tracked .

Though we are both on the same page !

good Luck I wish I was closer to help in person.

 

Right. But shims won’t get the axle back where it was. My dif is angled up right now. I thought maybe shimming it to angle it down would get the wheels centered (slip yoke back in place). I called Tom Woods & was told no. Shims would only adjust the axle angle.

 

so how far is the slip yoke out?...when did it change?

 

Did you by chance tighten things without the truck on the ground??

The full suspension should be sitting on the ground.

That might cause the issue your having not allowing the springs to settle in place before you tighten the bolts more then finger tight.

All the bolts Hangers ,shackles and leaf springs.

If every thing else is correct as you state!!!

 

It’s out about 1in.
I don’t know exactly. Luckily I have pics from painting the truck & when I installed the coilovers. It was sometime after doing those. I believe I had already done the leaf springs.

 

I followed the instructions to a T.
I’ve now done it a number of times. Last time was adding a leaf about 2mos ago.
Yes. New ubolts

 

Is it causing some kind of problem?I dont know how much the slip yoke moves,but under hard acceleration it will move forward