4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

I was talking with someone today that has 305K miles on his F150 and still going strong.

 

My buddy who sent me those pictures, used to work for Ford said they had ecoboost F-150s fleet vehicles with 300-400K miles on them. He also thinks Toyotas are a joke, so it is all relative.

 

1 in a million.

 

Most boring full size truck out there. Besides the front end, I feel like It's had the same profile for 15 years.

But much more conservative then the tundra though. I think Chevy has a good mix of both.

 

The new 2024 Ford will piss them off ...just revealed an hour ago

 

After reading about 40 pages, We're a bunch of opinionated fuckers, aren't we? Hope everyone is doing well! I was gonna reply to a bunch of posts, but forgot which ones. Oh well! I'm a month behind away.

--- I'm a hillbilly and all my life I heard nothing but Buy American, "American Reliability," and "quit giving your money to Japan." from my peers and some elders --- Plenty of Ford & Chevy guys and gals run their mouths. Dodge folk in my neck of woods seem to be more reserved. There is no doubt that plenty of Toyota fanboys make the rest of the tribe look like dorks. Some of us can be very shitty towards the Frontier especially. I'm glad you never heard any bragging---I sure did and it soured me good some for years. I try not to let idiots control my opinions and to be fair The "Big" Three. Right is Right and fair is fair. Marketing is powerful tool. And all manufacturers use it. Word of mouth it even more so.

I will agree with you on the 22R-E, way overblown, in my opinion. It was a HEMI though. The 3Y, 4Y, 2RZ, and 2TR all are superior 4 bangers. In fact you can buy the 3Y & 4Y motors brand new today:


The 2RZ alone makes more power, is smoother, and can achieve 30 mpg w/ 5MT in 5 Lugger Tacomas. And if you want to you can boost to it, and it can take it.

When Dad was a new driver my grandmother bought him a brand new 86 Hilux -- no options except A/C.
I always hear stories of him racing his buddys with it, off roading, drifting, donuts, and other stupid shit. He loved that little bugger. When my older brother was born he sold it with 110,000 Miles on it. Only thing that broke was the rear diff ( he said with had a 1-ton rear end it as well and it was a standard bed 2WD) and he said that was his fault. He has 1991 XtraCab that is a piece of shit though--- He bought it used so who knows what the poor thing went through before him.

1996 Tacoma has 146K on it and hasn't had a oil change in 17 years. Runs better than I do. The Frame on the other hand.... before the frame rotted that thing put in a good bit of work.
2006 Corolla has 230K on it and has went 110K miles with no oil change. No valve clatter, and gets 33 MPG all day, every day. and has pulled 1100 lbs worth of utility trailer.

Shit Happens I guess & It's all pot luck. Someone once said to me "It's all shit, just find the shit you like." (paraphrased)

 

I am ok with boring. Never did like to cod piece grills they were doing there for years. Grew up in 70-80s Fords always preferred the more horizontal style grills, new ones seems like they are doing a nod to the past.





Diggin’ the Tremor, clean and simple. That new modular bumper is kinda cool.

 

I don’t know. The thing is beat to hell and hasn’t lived an easy life.

 

Why are you not doing oil changes?

 

Isn’t it usually the top selling vehicle I the US? They don’t need to make drastic changes or add a bunch of gimmicks to keep selling. Other manufacturers should take some lessons.

 

Fleet sales inflate that number a lot, which it dominates in, but technically yes.

The F150 has been the most radically different truck since at least 2011 as they continue to roll out innovations years/decades before other manufacturers. They are smart enough to not make them as hideous as whatever GM is doing

 

Remember GM advertising with Howie Long making fun of the tailgate step Ford came out with? Then GM makes one of their own years later. Imitation is the best form of flattery. Looking at you Toyota with turbo 6 in the Tundra.

 

Why don't we change the oil?

 

I have a love hate with my tailgate. It’s useful, but I can see the mechanism being problematic with heavy bed use. I’ve read where they’ve broken by not using a board to distribute weight across them when hauling with the tailgate down.

There’s a used T4R Pro for mid-40s with 60k local. I’m trying to be strong (and wait for the new Tacoma in a few years).

 

If Ford was so terrible, doubt if they would be the number one seller. Fleet sales are all about the cost of ownership bottom line.

Talk about an outdated platform…

Read recently that halo trims are “emotional support vehicles”. Lol!

 

They also made fun of the use of aluminum body panels.

Yeah remember Swears saying over and over again that Toyota will never use Turbos, and here we are.

 

Didn’t you just recently get the new GM truck? You already want out?

 

Look a squirrel!

 

Shiiiiiiiit….30 years ago got a huge amount of crap for buying “Jap Crap” I am from Southwestern Pa the heart of steel and coal country. My family came from coal miners. The American pride stuff runs deep there. Yeah there is always going to brand loyalty, dunno they are all going to give you trouble some more than others. Now-a-days it is odd seeing American pride stickers on a back of a Toyota, ummmm, Japanese owned, built in Mexico with a lot of Chinese parts…but yeah dude go do your chest thumping. lol!


“Shit Happens I guess & It's all pot luck. Someone once said to me "It's all shit, just find the shit you like." (paraphrased)”

ha! I like that!

Sure do like my Toyotas, the new crop…man they are hard to look at. Their design team must be macro dosing shrooms. That or letting AI do all the designing…must of punched in “transformers, adult children, machismo” and that is what it came up with.


What is the deal with not changing oil? I used to change the oil in my 1st Gen every 2500 miles since it is in the dirt a lot. Going to 5000 intervals in my 3rd Gen is hard for me, can’t imagine going 10,000, not changing is blasphemous.

 

That's the main Reason I decided to buy a Toyota the well renowned reliability
Hopeful that it'll last but I will say the only thing I miss about a fullsize is the interior space but I don't haul much other than fishing gear.