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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by EL TACOROJO, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Sep 17, 2023 at 5:30 AM
    allenfab

    allenfab I hate everything

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    100% a beeping sound. Definitely coming from the machine. I will try and get a video of it soon
     
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  2. Sep 17, 2023 at 6:08 AM
    Bivouac

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    Message me the serial number and code if it has a code #

    You bought this machine new??

    The people I talked to Friday have no idea.
     
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  3. Sep 17, 2023 at 6:19 AM
    wilcam47

    wilcam47 Keep on keeping on!

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    In for the resolution
     
  4. Sep 17, 2023 at 6:47 AM
    Bivouac

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    Some of the high tech Lincoln Electric Machines have a remote Command and control system.

    This might be some type of Alarm the machine output has dropped below the threshold current.

    This should be covered in the operators manual or noted where to find this information.

    Without the serial number and Code it is all a guess.
     
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  5. Sep 17, 2023 at 12:05 PM
    soggyBottom

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    How hard is annealed 4140 compared to mild steel?
     
  6. Sep 17, 2023 at 1:09 PM
    Kwikvette

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    Chemical Elements 1018 Steel----------------4140 Steel
    Carbon (C) 0.0018----------------------------0.004
    Manganese (Mn) 0.60% to 0.90%------------0.75% to 1.00%
    Sulfur (S) 0.0005------------------------------0.0004
    Phosphorus (S) 0.0004------------------------0.00035
    Molybdenum –----------------------------------0.15% to 0.25%
    Chromium –------------------------------------0.80% to 1.10%
    Silicon –-----------------------------------------0.15% to 0.30%
    Iron 98.81% to 99.26%-----------------------96.79% to 97.78%

    Mechanical Properties
    Yield Strength
    4140 steel has a higher yield strength of 60,200 PSI (415 MPa) than 1018 steel with 53,700 PSI (370 MPa). As a result, 4140 steel can withstand more impact and pressure without deforming. Its higher yield strength is a result of its chemical composition. However, 1018 steel also has a relatively high yield strength, meaning it is not a weak metal.

    Elasticity
    This property is a means of understanding a material’s resilience and resistance to deformation. Elasticity also relates to metal stiffness. 1018 steel has an elastic modulus of 205 GPa, while 4140 steel is between 190 to 210 GPa. This shows that both steel grades respond similarly to elastic deformation.

    Material Hardness
    A material’s hardness showcases its ability to resist deformation by penetration, indentation, or other means. 4140 steel has a Brinell hardness rating of 200, while 1018 steel has a rating of 130 to 140. This shows that the former is much harder than the latter. However, both steel materials have enough hardness to withstand pressure without deforming.

    Corrosion Resistance
    4140 steel is more corrosion resistant than 1018, thanks to the chromium content. This is one of the 4140 steel properties that makes it more useful for outdoor applications. Manufacturers often choose this steel material for fabricating components expected to get in contact with corrosive materials.
     
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  7. Sep 17, 2023 at 4:05 PM
    soggyBottom

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    I found those same numbers. I'm assuming that all those values are after hardening. What about when annealed?
     
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  8. Sep 17, 2023 at 4:10 PM
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    For some reason when I got on the site, it started me at this post.

    I know, no help, but when my truck is not fully engaged in 4lo, I get an annoying beep. Sorry, couldn't help it...the little guy that sits on my shoulder and tells me what I should and shouldn't post...well...he went for a smoke.
     
  9. Sep 17, 2023 at 4:54 PM
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    Because I'm not a metallurgist, I'm just gonna say "hard as fuck".

    I'd join a different forum for those specifics.

    Yes this is the welding thread, and there's metallurgy involved, but it isn't required as part of the job for many. On top of that many welders here are hobbyists.

    Hopefully someone gets you the answer you seek.
     
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  10. Sep 17, 2023 at 7:36 PM
    Kwikvette

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    On another note, someone with a functional VIM module confirmed it is a closed circuit

    That means my VIM module is fried

    No continuity through DIV in out

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    Was simpler only having to probe one side of the module as I used pins 1 and 2 on the cable socket end to probe through the other side

    And yes, that was checked for continuity as it works well and is the factory supplied cable

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    Stripped the "guards" off the PrimeWeld and will open her up tomorrow in preparation for tapping into RAW voltage

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    My VIM module still needs replacing but I'm hoping to get it up and running the second replacement parts make it their way here
     
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  11. Sep 17, 2023 at 9:38 PM
    Kwikvette

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    The little culprit

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  12. Sep 18, 2023 at 4:43 AM
    six5crèéd

    six5crèéd Be the light

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    The older I get my eyes and not what they used to be. Was measuring something one day with a scale and couldn't see it that good. Ordered a magnetic LED light and fixed that :D

    https://a.co/d/0ydVH1j

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  13. Sep 18, 2023 at 8:43 AM
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    The real question is hard in what application ?

    Are you talking impact resistance ?

    Surface Abrasion resistance?

    Hardness in machining ?

    Heat treating can be a very complex depending just what your end goal for the material is.
     
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  14. Sep 18, 2023 at 8:46 AM
    Bivouac

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    Thanks for that great idea!!

    No matter just where I placed the light I would have shadows that made seeing things hard at times.
     
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  15. Sep 18, 2023 at 8:53 AM
    six5crèéd

    six5crèéd Be the light

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    The only shadow with this is pretty close to the cut line, depending on how close you need it :thumbsup:
     
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  16. Sep 18, 2023 at 9:02 AM
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    KRAMERICA Old Man Mike

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    A couple of rear window decals...
    Well that looks easily repairable.
     
  17. Sep 18, 2023 at 9:05 AM
    Kwikvette

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    Oh easily

    But I don't know what color that middle band is

    That and I'm under warranty so, waiting to hear back on the new one I'll get sent

    Will see the band color, order a new resistor of the same value, repair old module, and set aside as a backup

    Just sucks it happened and I don't have a Radio Shack near me; I miss those days of going and opening their little slide out drawers rummaging for the parts I needed
     
  18. Sep 18, 2023 at 9:29 AM
    KRAMERICA

    KRAMERICA Old Man Mike

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    Is Radio Shack even still in business? I haven't seen one in over 10 years.
     
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  19. Sep 18, 2023 at 9:30 AM
    Kwikvette

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    Being facetious; was thinking of a simpler time :bananadead:
     
  20. Sep 18, 2023 at 9:37 AM
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    KRAMERICA Old Man Mike

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    I can remember attending the Grand Opening of the store in the Mall of Memphis, they were giving away free D-cell flashlights with a coupon from the paper. My Dad kept going back in to get more. Only God knows how much we spent on batteries in the years to followed. We must have had a dozen of those things floating around the house in the 80s and 90s.:D
     

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