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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Sep 20, 2023 at 9:34 PM
    Caboose117

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    I’m 95” wide
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    I wouldn’t even fit in that gate
    But I have 18” of front travel in 4WD
    So maybe I’d just crawl over it? (Jk)
     
  2. Sep 20, 2023 at 9:35 PM
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    Haha, right out my backyard is Rubicon, Fordyce, Barret Lake which are all pretty tight rocky trails. Travel is important but I think the width might hurt me more than the extra travel would help me (talking specifically about the JD Fab 2.25 vs 4 which is 13" vs 14" travel per their specs).
     
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  3. Sep 20, 2023 at 10:17 PM
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    Yeah
    I heavily considered that since I had plans to drive it to Alaska just for shits and giggles but then building motors on YouTube academy became an obsession and tight trails went out the window :anonymous::rofl:
     
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  4. Sep 21, 2023 at 7:10 AM
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    Being norcal and Rubicon the 2.25 or a 2.5 kit may be best. I'm 3.5 and some of the tighter trails up her I struggle. As well as those 'jeep' cliff edge trails, I have to hang a wheel off the edge and that isn't fun. My buddy build a 2.5 Chaos kit and it handles really really good in the desert. It's all about shock set up.
     
  5. Sep 21, 2023 at 9:51 AM
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    Turns out they already got the outter joint out on one side after pressing from both sides. I told them to use a 1" drill Incase it doesn't work for the other side tho
     
  6. Sep 21, 2023 at 11:56 AM
    snowsk8air2

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    Keep in mind a lot of jeeps/crawlers with full size axles and 40’s are pushing 90” or more nowadays. My truck is 89” in the front with a 3.5” kit, wheels with 3.5” bs and 12.5” tires. It feels wide in spots but made it through the rubicon and a bunch of trails in sand hollow and Moab without being too wide.

    Difference between a 2.25” and 3.5” kit is 2.5” or 4.5” with a 4.5” kit. Wider kit will have a better motion ratio for the shocks as well to allow better tuning.
     
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  7. Sep 21, 2023 at 12:13 PM
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    Good to know, appreciate it. Yeah, the only reason I'm not as keen is because JD Fab's numbers for their 2.25 kit vs their 4 kit are 13" vs 14" of travel and so even their 2.25" kit is a half inch more travel than e.g., TC's 3.5" kit (12.5") and only a half inch less than DRT's 3.5" kit (13.5"). Seems like a decent trade.

    If their specs are to be believed, anyways.
     
  8. Sep 21, 2023 at 1:25 PM
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  9. Sep 21, 2023 at 4:31 PM
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    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    I’ll let others that run other brands comment but not all companies tell the truth about travel numbers lol. And travel numbers don’t mean squat if your shocks aren’t tuned. Ask @dwphoto about the stock class 7s ranger that came out to the cinders meet a few weeks ago. Truck had like 8” up front and maybe 10” out back and would outrun a lot of trucks here in the whoops
     
  10. Sep 21, 2023 at 4:33 PM
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    For sure. I'm unfortunately intimately familiar with valving after spending the last two years trying to eek every bit of performance out of mid-travel setups that in total exceed the cost of just doing LT right to begin with. A classic story, really. ;)
     
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  11. Sep 21, 2023 at 4:38 PM
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    Yep. We took the wife’s 4runner out a few weeks ago just for a little cruise through the woods and after driving the Tacoma a few hundred miles through the cinders the week prior, makes me want to open up her shocks and do a little tuning. But I also know the rear is so limited by uptravel i don’t know how good I’ll be able to get it without doing something about that.
     
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    Yeah, my rear is dialed in so tight right now with 14” smoothies in archive garage shock relos and cross tubes that I’m a little concerned how it’ll feel after LTing the front. Maybe it won’t feel so dialed anymore.
     
  13. Sep 21, 2023 at 4:47 PM
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    From personal experience, it won’t be good lol. I lasted less than 2 weeks from when I installed my front lt to when I ordered a rear sua setup. I was running bamf relocation with 12” smoothies.

    @Sixthelement truck we did the whole archive rear setup and I advised to do bypasses and he originally didnt. The following year he did the jd 2.25 kit up front and almost immediately needed more from the rear. Switched to bypasses in the rear which helped but the lack of uptravel just kills the rear of these trucks when soa. We just finished the jd sua while retaining the archive mounts and 12” bypasses and it’s much better with the added uptravel. Squeaked 13.5” of travel out of the rear with the archive upper mounts and 12” shocks. It pairs well with the front now
     
  14. Sep 21, 2023 at 4:57 PM
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    Yes can confirm... 7s Ranger with stock suspension...was keeping up with my buddy Scotts red 4 runner ( linked, TT motorsports front kit ) who was cruising. but still think boogied with 8 inches of travel

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    oh and then there is our buddy Michael and his Sleeper...

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    Have you tried removing your front bump stops to see how it handles? Not saying i'd recommend getting rowdy without bump stops(at least not without serious additions to the coil buckets) but the bumps in the front limit a decent bit of up travel. iirc you can get like 11ish of travel in the front that way with the right shocks(also iirc it was the factory offroad shocks that allow the most lol) vs like 9 that most midtravel gets. Basically it would give you a teaser of how much some extra travel in the front would really make a difference. Not the same cause of shock travel and motion ratios but it's more info to help with decision making
     
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    I should just SAS it at this point huh ;)
     
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    For Tahoe rubicon crawling stuff might as well. Check out @RickyBobby on instagrams truck. Sas with co and bypass and 4 link rear
     
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    Meso is doing whoop scissors and links
    He’s got a hellcat motor tho :anonymous:
     
  19. Sep 21, 2023 at 7:33 PM
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    Be a lot cooler with a 22re and 65rwhp


    Just buy Scott’s Tacoma from down in Mexico with ttb and links
     
  20. Sep 21, 2023 at 8:22 PM
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