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1st Gen Lunchtable Thread - General Discussion

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Speedytech7, May 31, 2018.

  1. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:08 PM
    Kwikvette

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    Man, what's crazy is the pricing of said 'fabbed' parts.

    Be curious to know what kind of tooling was made available.

    Looking at that video though, he's using over $250 in clamps not to mention the many blocks/stops for another $150-200, all on a table that sells for $10k.
     
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  2. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:14 PM
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    I'm sure we can figure out the pricing of the tooling he uses. The one that made the $600 squares was all fucked up and I doubt he used anything but a regular carpenters square. The second shop, the one I'm familiar with I am 100% sure built them on a surface ground metal slab that's 2" thick. He probably welded some fences on it and got it close cause the boss would absolutely chew him if he took long on it and didn't just grind it into half ass closeish tolerance. Shop C, who knows, price wasnt bad on B or C but the products weren't built to the called out tolerances or weld guidelines. It's annoying but I would expect a machinshop to read a print better than a weldshop, something tells me asking for precision isn't as common in a regular fab shop. There's a big difference between a welder and a fitter. A welder just sticks parts together competently, a fitter/fabricator can build something from a print entirely.
     
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  3. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:23 PM
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    I had to watch it again to reference the parts you're describing.

    All around I think 'C' was the most reasonable as I'd expect the flatness to be harder to achieve as the out-of-spec dimensions were attributed to pure laziness (or I don't care attitude).

    But absolutely agree; fab shops won't even know how to read those drawings as I think I even texted you 'sketches' my boss would do on scratch paper and ask me to 'knock these out' whereas my other job dealt only with blueprints and AWS symbols.

    Two totally different worlds, and complete different expectations when it came to accuracy.
     
  4. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:28 PM
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    Fab shop -

    "Make the holes a cunt hair bigger so there's enough play for a monkey to put it together"

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    Manufacturing shop -

    "You have to sign these NDA's and cannot discuss the information on any given set of plans for our assemblies. All assemblies must be square within a 1/16" tolerance (describing 8' to 12' assemblies)

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  5. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:30 PM
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    @treyus30

    When are you buying yourself that $10k welding table?!
     
  7. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:33 PM
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    When I can charge $250/hr for it :proposetoast:
     
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    Then you can get that ocean front property in AZ like you've always wanted
     
  9. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:35 PM
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    And I can use perforated steel tables as privacy screens to flex on the scorpions
     
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  10. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:37 PM
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    You finish your print yet?

    I was a big procrastinator over my bumper but you're just drawing a 12" x 12" sheet to be cut on steel for months now :rofl:
     
  11. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:43 PM
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    Just means I'm going to go through a lot more mineral spirits and a lot more denatured alcohol
     
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    Want to get a foam board ideally, but we'll see. I actually realized I need something else from you now that I got the Tracker back. Just a couple eyelet flanges for the rear shocks
     
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    That sounds like a 1-2min drawing.

    Send it over, I think I'll be cutting stuff this weekend.
     
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    I mean I'm used to "fully defining" things so nothing is a 2 min drawing lol, but I'll try to get with the times ;)
     
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    I'm not gonna give you shit for blue lines :luvya:
     
  18. Oct 24, 2023 at 7:53 PM
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    You hippies and your lazy two-dimensional work. "I don't need to define things because I only work on flat parts" :p
     
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    Clamps keep my Neanderthal designs from moving in directions I don't like :rofl:
     
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