Space and Science BS Thread

It can fit in the fairing but not with full payload unless Falcon Heavy. The F9 fairing is 43’ while Dream Chaser is ~ 30’ and Shooting Star is 15’ so no fairing. I suppose they could launch the cargo version with Shooting Star on FH and forgo the fairing but since FH isn’t yet crew rated I think this answers my earlier question on timing. In an emergency evac an F9 crewed DC combo might be considered given the greater crew capacity and rapid F9 turn around.
Evac implying no crew at launch so 6 could return.

 

It’s amazing how little regulators enforce regulations..

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/

 

The best guardrail is no guardrail.

 

Yeh for those that have their eyes open and support X closely you better be paying attention. I've had more than a couple situations that I won't describe that I've had to elevate it and basically put a contraint on continuing.

 

I was thinking of you when I read it…

Glad you were able to elevate whatever it was without retribution

 

Modified Elon quote. He isn’t the one paying the price for his need for speed and demands that regulators get out of the way. While I want them to succeed I have a hard time believing anyone can have more than one top priority.

 

https://x.com/nasajpl/status/1723105980786082067?s=46

 

Slipping a bit…
https://x.com/spacex/status/1723158118706839819?s=46

 

You should see how SpaceX stores propellant…

 

Just over a month from announcing to the flight:
https://x.com/nasahistory/status/1723717313512292553?s=46

 

Both a hardware and personnel rich program.

 

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1724271004044644800?s=46
https://x.com/infographictony/status/1724318877369454644?s=46

 

29 broken/dislocated bones. 17 hand crushes, 9 head injuries. Out of 10,000 employees, over the course of 10 years... Sounds like more of the news's sensationalism to me. Accidents and injuries are going to happen. That's just statistics. You can put as many regulations, rules, guard rails, etc as you want. You're always gonna have things like someone who was out partying too hard the night before coming to work hung over and taking shortcuts they shouldn't. You're going to have old timers ignoring the rules because they've done it like that all their lives. And young guys who ignored the safety meeting.

Take the first example they gave. The new employee decided he should play the role of a paperweight. Elon didn't tell him to do that. His supervisor didn't tell him to do that. HE came up with the idea and executed it, and himself. And this is the type of thing I see ALL THE TIME. New guy couldn't find any rope or straps. And instead of taking the time to do it right, he took a shortcut. But I get it, he was trying to save SpaceX from having to buy $20 in ratchet straps!!

 

It’s the facade of having regulations that aren’t enforced and SpX just ignoring them.

Blowing off workers and families isn’t good either especially when they really don’t have to. Corporate cowardice IMHO. Keeps the lawyers and courts in business.

 

Supervisor didn’t tell him not to is more to the point. Supervisors can emphasize speed over safety or safety over speed, hence my comment on only one being the top priority. Construction is dangerous enough around heavy equipment and they’ve had a lot if it operating simultaneously in close proximity.

 

The place is HUGE and has 10,000 employees. Do you expect them to hire a supervisor for each employee to monitor them their entire shift?

Yes a supervisor didn't tell him not to do it, and I doubt a supervisor told him TO do it. He, an adult, made the decision to do it on his own despite them having rules and regulations saying not to.

Supervisory and regulations don't do anything. The only thing that works is accountability. I know people that work power transmission lines. Their rules? If one of them does the whole team is fired. Holds them all accountable for everyone's actions.

 

FAA would never allow a drone this close, but this would be an awesome perspective for a launch
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy2oPcfOUQ0/

 

When that accountability goes all the way up then you might have something. As is those supplying the pressure aren’t the ones choosing between limbs or jobs.

 

I’ll go back to my original point, why have regulations if your not going to enforce. Specifically, the reporting requirement. Reuters says SpX is blowing that off year after year and there’s apparently no consequences?