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Manifold caked with filth

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Rat_Bastard, Nov 19, 2023.

  1. Nov 20, 2023 at 6:22 PM
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    SwollenGoat

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    It is nasty. Used to go to Baja quite a bit on the bikes, would run a pre filter cover, plus brought extra filters with us. That silt is no joke.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20aJ7otu9i0
     
  2. Nov 20, 2023 at 6:24 PM
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  4. Nov 20, 2023 at 6:47 PM
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    Very curious what the silicon levels will read!

    Impressive that it's been running ok with what he's found past the filter.
     
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  5. Nov 20, 2023 at 7:12 PM
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    I'd say Blackstone results would be off the charts. Sad to say with the cylinder 5 miss that dirt didn't stop at the intake. It is a testament to just how tough these Toyota engines are though.
     
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    I'm looking to convert my current snorkel top fitting to one like you pictured
     
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    This thread is entertaining like the oil change threads. K&N hate but Toyota sells their branded version. Haviging used both the TRD filter is more robust.
     
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    Wouldn’t buy that either. K&Ns aren’t terrible but wouldn’t use in a heavy dust application without a foam prefilter wrap like what is pictured on that sand rail earlier in the thread.
     
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    Not just the dust, that terrain will tear any vehicle up fast. Thanks for posting it.
     
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    After reading these posts and seeing the videos, the first thing I'm going to do in the morning is check / replace my air filter. - I use Wix.
     
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    Total hell on equipment, people spend millions and millions to do so.


    I’d probably pull the heads. See if the cylinders are scorn, and take look at the valves.
     
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    I wish I had prior experience with this task.
     
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    Pulling the heads might be a bit excessive, in my opinion. Tossing the upper intake and removing and cleaning the lower is as far as I would disassemble. I would however borescope and/or do a compression test at this point because you have a misfire and rough running condition... atleast a compression test will be easier with the intake already off.

    if your compression test is alright then count your blessings, clean the intake ports with a shop vac in the port as you clean, reassemble with a new upper(and if in the budget lower) intake and find the cause of your misfire... hopefully it's a coil pack and everything else is fine
     
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    ….or clean it up the best you can, button it up, and trade that sucker in.
     
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    Nothing to argue about here. OPs photo clearly proves trash is getting by his filter unless he has a loose clamp or something.
    Trash gets by your filter like that it’s time for a better filter, like OEM paper.
     
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    This is what I would do
     
  18. Nov 21, 2023 at 5:44 AM
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    I worked with a contractor dude and he had a K/N. it was so overly oiled. it was crusted, and everything downstream was crusted just like this photo. the company mechanic said you kinda have to nail the perfect oiling. I tossed mine shortly afterwards. I was heavy handed as well.
     
  19. Nov 21, 2023 at 6:56 AM
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    Was that k&n ever oiled?
     
  20. Nov 21, 2023 at 9:37 AM
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    I quit using oiled air filters (never used a K&N) back when MAF sensors got installed. I had read that any filter oil which happened to get released from the filter media could/would pollute the MAF sensor. The MAF sensor is too critical, too expensive, and tricky to clean properly to fuck around with.

    But I loved the oiled-foam filters with carburetor use!
    In '75 I put one on my '66 Mustang. Dad put one on his '73 RX-3SP. In '79 I switched an oil-bath filter system for an oiled-foam filter on a Studebaker and never looked back. Worked perfectly. Those were my first experiences with them, but not my last.

    There was an impressive apparatus created to test the different filter medias of the day (in the early 80s).
    A simple suction machine, rigged up with clear piping, a fixture to hold the automotive air filter of choice at the intake side of the piping, the exhaust tube with a ping-pong ball free floating in it, and a paper coffee filter (white!) at the exhaust side of the piping.
    Demonstrator had a squeeze bottle of very fine dirt/dust (talcum powder consistency, but brown in color) that was squirted all around the filter of choice - with the pump running.
    The only media that I witnessed to NOT have any dirt/dust on the coffee filter was an oiled foam one (it was not a K&N). Every other paper filter, oil bath filter, or foam filter showed dirt/dust on the coffee filter. I saw about seven filters tested.

    The ping-pong ball was used to show the measure of air flow. The higher it got to the coffee filter at the end of the exhaust tube (which was vertical), the more air was passing through. The ball level could be marked with a grease pencil for each filter tested.
    I don't remember exactly if the oil foam filter had the highest air flow of all, but I DO remember that it was an impressive amount of air flow. I can fully believe that the highest air flow filter also let the most dirt/dust to pass.

    Would like to see that apparatus today and run some real time testing of modern filters.
     

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