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4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

Discussion in '4th Gen. Tacomas (2024+)' started by shakerhood, Aug 26, 2021.

  1. Nov 23, 2023 at 7:40 AM
    Plasmech

    Plasmech Well-Known Member

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    I'm not worried.

    The worst case is that I learn a whole lot about turbos and hybrid tech, lol.
     
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  2. Nov 23, 2023 at 7:49 AM
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    The only thing similar to a civic engine is the number of cylinders. Which means your truck has a fiero engine.
     
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  3. Nov 23, 2023 at 8:07 AM
    Lt. Dangle

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  4. Nov 23, 2023 at 8:14 AM
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    SwollenGoat Onwards and Upwards!

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    Remember reading this years ago, and dug it up. It is for the Tundra, but Sweers was against small displacement gas turbo engines. Wanted a diesel for the Tundra, sure if he had his way one would have found its way into the Tacoma too.

    @Turd Ferguson, you are always mentioning about in cab storage. Read what is in bold at the end of the article.

    https://tundraheadquarters.com/sweers-defends-2014-tundra/

    Q: A lot is being made of the Tundra engines being carried over, while Chevrolet, Ford and Ram are rolling out new powertrains with their truck redesigns. Did Toyota goof?

    A: In 2007, we had the most advanced powertrains in the segment. We had overhead cams, 32 valves and variable valve timing. Now the others are just competitive. Everyone is saying how the Silverado has this new engine family, but it’s still just pushrods. And those small turbo engines may make a lot of power, but at their heart, they are still small-displacement engines that can’t do the same thing as a big V-8. And engine braking is a big thing when towing.

    Q. What about adding direct injection or cylinder deactivation to Toyota’s truck engines?

    A. We looked at these things and just couldn’t find the return on investment for the owner. Both are expensive for us and for our customers. And my concern is whether customers see real-world fuel economy differences or if it’s just so the manufacturer can get off-cycle credits for CAFE. Truck guys are quick to catch on when they pay for something and it doesn’t deliver. When we can prove direct injection is beneficial to the customer, we’ll do it.

    Q. What about stop-start?

    A. With a V-8 that has a lot of torque, it won’t be a seamless integration on restart like you would get with a Prius. You’ll probably get a real kick in the back. And for the small fuel economy gains you would get, I think most customers would find it annoying.

    Q. Current Tundra owners have complained about a significant driveline “clunk” during deceleration. What have you done to address that with the 2014 model?

    A. If you really push it, you can still create it. But we’ve put countermeasures in place to resolve it. Our prop-shaft setup has always been different from our competitors’. We have split it in two, with a counterbearing to make the shaft shorter.

    Q. Did the noise have something to do with the counterbearing?

    A. No. But if I told you what we did, then you’d know what was wrong. I’m sure someone clever will tear apart the new one and old one and figure it out.

    Q. There were some complaints about bed-hop. Sure, it’s a pickup truck; it’ll have some back-end bounce when unladen. But these were some really upset people.

    A. We added hydraulic dampeners in 2010 to address this. But for 2014, we changed the spring rate on the leaf springs, especially on the off-road package. There’s a fine line between a good highway ride and off-road capability, especially involving the secondary damping. We also revised the valving of all four shocks. I think we hit a nice balance.

    Q. What was something current owners told you that surprised you?

    A. We found that 88 percent of our crew cab customers didn’t like the rear seats. We spent all this time and effort to make this great seat that reclines, tilts and slides. And all the time, they just wanted a flip-up seat so they could store more stuff. I don’t want to spend money to dissatisfy our customers.
     
  5. Nov 23, 2023 at 8:17 AM
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    I am not blaming it on Toyota that they are downgrading engines. We all know its because of BS emission laws. All this while rich fatties are still flying their jets which has more emissions than like 1000 trucks combined. But hey, its us regular people who has to obey law, who cares about fat pockets flying their jets for hour drive.


    Even if we leave rich pockets out of this, it is the China that makes up almost half of the world pollution. Its triple the number of the USA.
     
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  6. Nov 23, 2023 at 8:19 AM
    SwollenGoat

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    Totally agree. The holier than thou folks. “Do as I say! not as I do…”
     
  7. Nov 23, 2023 at 8:50 AM
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    3JOH22A トヨタ純正男娼

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    So complete teardown every 300 miles?
     
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  8. Nov 23, 2023 at 10:27 AM
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    Now this is an idea I could get behind
     
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  9. Nov 23, 2023 at 11:54 AM
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    I wonder where this footage came from. I thought everything was embargoed up to the tits.

     
  10. Nov 23, 2023 at 12:00 PM
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    Fieldsanitation HPPTMS

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    that's all from the Hawaii gig and available formats out there... just a new voice over.

    struggling with this PATIENCE thing. I fucking HATE waiting for shit. Learned to show up early and wait in the Marine Corps, but listening to the EV rants and the lawnmower rants really get's old... ya know? 5 freakin days.
     
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  11. Nov 23, 2023 at 12:04 PM
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    I likely have it worse than you.

    I won't be buying a 2024 gas model. I'll likely be buying a 2025 MAX or a 2026 MAX. I have a long, LONG time to go.
     
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    oh wow, yeah... the tease has got to be awful then. I picked up my 2015 MK7 GTI in October2014... having done the research and prep work for about 2 or 3 months and a few test drives. I had no idea how big of a dog and pony show this was gonna be.
     
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  13. Nov 23, 2023 at 12:44 PM
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    This forum thrives on off topic, it would whither and die otherwise. And the owners know it.

    There is a forum solely for the 4G, pretty fucking dry and boring too… :)
     
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  14. Nov 23, 2023 at 1:01 PM
    It's a TRD Thang

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    So because one country causes most of the issues the rest of the world should do nothing? Worst excuse to use . Lead by example, makes China look bad by doing nothing.
     
  15. Nov 23, 2023 at 1:02 PM
    It's a TRD Thang

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    Speaking of leading by example, it's been quiet in here . Was Turd banned?
     
  16. Nov 23, 2023 at 1:03 PM
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    No, because USA owns the world and needs to find solution to China. Or should put sanctions on communist China to stop polluting whole planet. Or you don't think that USA literally is global power.

    Least could have been done to rich fatties to stop flying jets, which has way more pollution than rest of us regular people driving cars to work and parking them for 8 hours.

    Literally we are slowly having Hybrids and EV bs shoved down our throats when people are flying private jets.
     
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  17. Nov 23, 2023 at 1:56 PM
    SwollenGoat

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    Was getting ready to ask where your wife has been…I am getting bored. :D


    Maybe he got smart is actually out doing something fun. Me, waiting on my wife to get ready so we can go on a hike before I cook dinner. :)
     
  18. Nov 23, 2023 at 2:03 PM
    It's a TRD Thang

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    You sound fun at parties
    Nothing wrong with hybrids , Toyota has been doing them for years
     
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    Wait you're doing the cooking? What time is dinner?
     
  20. Nov 23, 2023 at 2:24 PM
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    Engine makes 50lb-ft more torque 3300 RPM sooner than outgoing engine…this dude calls it a downgrade lmfao
     

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