4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

4runnerToTacoma · Nov 23, 2023

OpeCity said: ↑

Engine makes 50lb-ft more torque 3300 RPM sooner than outgoing engine…this dude calls it a downgrade lmfao
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You really just assume everything is exactly same as its written on paper xD?

It's a TRD Thang · Nov 23, 2023

4runnerToTacoma said: ↑

You really just assume everything is exactly same as its written on paper xD?
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So they are lying about the torque increase
Turd is that you? Did you change your name?

4runnerToTacoma · Nov 23, 2023

It's a TRD Thang said: ↑

So they are lying about the torque increase
Turd is that you? Did you change your name?
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They are not lying. But this is like saying you will pay exactly same as its written on the website.

Hogleg918 · Nov 23, 2023

4runnerToTacoma said: ↑

They are not lying. But this is like saying you will pay exactly same as its written on the website.
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How? Why? Defend your statement.

It's a TRD Thang · Nov 23, 2023

4runnerToTacoma said: ↑

They are not lying. But this is like saying you will pay exactly same as its written on the website.
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You're making literally no sense , not even remotely the same thing

pittim · Nov 23, 2023

4runnerToTacoma said: ↑

They are not lying. But this is like saying you will pay exactly same as its written on the website.
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And this, kids, is why mental health is important.

4runnerToTacoma · Nov 23, 2023

pittim said: ↑

And this, kids, is why mental health is important.
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Says guy who has Prius and is on Tacoma forums

pittim · Nov 23, 2023

4runnerToTacoma said: ↑

Says guy who has Prius and is on Tacoma forums
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Been here since 2008 when I had a first gen.

I’m still waiting for @tcBob to make me a mod, as the primary requirement to be one is to sell your Tacoma. Just ask people like @98tacoma27 , @chris4x4 , and @MTgirl , and countless others.

MTgirl · Nov 23, 2023

pittim said: ↑

Been here since 2008 when I had a first gen.

I’m still waiting for @tcBob to make me a mod, as the primary requirement to be one is to sell your Tacoma. Just ask people like @98tacoma27 , @chris4x4 , and @MTgirl , and countless others.
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I still got mine

pittim · Nov 23, 2023

MTgirl said: ↑

I still got mine
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You became royalty when it was out of your possession though right?

MTgirl · Nov 23, 2023

pittim said: ↑

You became royalty when it was out of your possession though right?
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yes. but then i came to my senses and got it back. and didn't get kicked out of the mod lair!

98tacoma27 · Nov 23, 2023

pittim said: ↑

Been here since 2008 when I had a first gen.

I’m still waiting for @tcBob to make me a mod, as the primary requirement to be one is to sell your Tacoma. Just ask people like @98tacoma27 , @chris4x4 , and @MTgirl , and countless others.
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Ah yes, the pink slider days.

And for the record, Toyota bought mine back. I didn't sell it.

stevesnj · Nov 23, 2023

It's a TRD Thang said: ↑

You sound fun at parties
Nothing wrong with hybrids , Toyota has been doing them for years
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Yeh almost 30

Lt. Dangle · Nov 23, 2023

4runnerToTacoma said: ↑

Says guy who has Prius and is on Tacoma forums
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Ad Hominem.

Poor form.

Plasmech · Nov 23, 2023

TacoBuffet · Nov 23, 2023

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Nice

JB_TN · Nov 23, 2023

pittim said: ↑

And this, kids, is why mental health is important.
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Turd Ferguson · Nov 23, 2023

SwollenGoat said: ↑

Remember reading this years ago, and dug it up. It is for the Tundra, but Sweers was against small displacement gas turbo engines. Wanted a diesel for the Tundra, sure if he had his way one would have found its way into the Tacoma too.

@Turd Ferguson, you are always mentioning about in cab storage. Read what is in bold at the end of the article.

https://tundraheadquarters.com/sweers-defends-2014-tundra/

Q: A lot is being made of the Tundra engines being carried over, while Chevrolet, Ford and Ram are rolling out new powertrains with their truck redesigns. Did Toyota goof?

A: In 2007, we had the most advanced powertrains in the segment. We had overhead cams, 32 valves and variable valve timing. Now the others are just competitive. Everyone is saying how the Silverado has this new engine family, but it’s still just pushrods. And those small turbo engines may make a lot of power, but at their heart, they are still small-displacement engines that can’t do the same thing as a big V-8. And engine braking is a big thing when towing.

Q. What about adding direct injection or cylinder deactivation to Toyota’s truck engines?

A. We looked at these things and just couldn’t find the return on investment for the owner. Both are expensive for us and for our customers. And my concern is whether customers see real-world fuel economy differences or if it’s just so the manufacturer can get off-cycle credits for CAFE. Truck guys are quick to catch on when they pay for something and it doesn’t deliver. When we can prove direct injection is beneficial to the customer, we’ll do it.

Q. What about stop-start?

A. With a V-8 that has a lot of torque, it won’t be a seamless integration on restart like you would get with a Prius. You’ll probably get a real kick in the back. And for the small fuel economy gains you would get, I think most customers would find it annoying.

Q. Current Tundra owners have complained about a significant driveline “clunk” during deceleration. What have you done to address that with the 2014 model?

A. If you really push it, you can still create it. But we’ve put countermeasures in place to resolve it. Our prop-shaft setup has always been different from our competitors’. We have split it in two, with a counterbearing to make the shaft shorter.

Q. Did the noise have something to do with the counterbearing?

A. No. But if I told you what we did, then you’d know what was wrong. I’m sure someone clever will tear apart the new one and old one and figure it out.

Q. There were some complaints about bed-hop. Sure, it’s a pickup truck; it’ll have some back-end bounce when unladen. But these were some really upset people.

A. We added hydraulic dampeners in 2010 to address this. But for 2014, we changed the spring rate on the leaf springs, especially on the off-road package. There’s a fine line between a good highway ride and off-road capability, especially involving the secondary damping. We also revised the valving of all four shocks. I think we hit a nice balance.

Q. What was something current owners told you that surprised you?

A. We found that 88 percent of our crew cab customers didn’t like the rear seats. We spent all this time and effort to make this great seat that reclines, tilts and slides. And all the time, they just wanted a flip-up seat so they could store more stuff. I don’t want to spend money to dissatisfy our customers.
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It’s too bad they didn’t listen to their customers.
I was just in Mexico and saw a few of your dream trucks there. Took a couple photos. Also saw a few of the midsize Rams which look pretty nice.

Turd Ferguson · Nov 23, 2023

It's a TRD Thang said: ↑

Speaking of leading by example, it's been quiet in here . Was Turd banned?
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Vacation bro. Not much has happened here while I was gone. Still no actual info on the new truck???

It's a TRD Thang · Nov 23, 2023

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Vacation bro. Not much has happened here while I was gone. Still no actual info on the new truck???
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Not till Tuesday , just more talk about crack , EVs and me driving a prius

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