4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

Should have went unibody 4G is so 21st century.

 

I'm thinking more like April.

 

Would do the total cost of ownership over 10 years is how I would look at it. Since maintenance and energy storage should be lower on the Rivian and Tesla.

Tried comparing a Rivian to Tacoma on Edmunds (iirc) but no stats were available for the Rivian.

 

Hoping for somebody to find a hidden link on the Toyota website for the 2024 build a truck configurator.

 

Just wondering that after eight years when the electric cars and trucks need a new battery, would it be cheaper just to crush them instead of spending 20 grand for a new one?

 

Why bother? Most people have never had a car or truck for 10 years.

 

3.5 engines aren’t cheap

 

Probably. Though I just spent $16K for a new engine and some other bits on my 1G. Was going to buy my wife a brand new RAV4, she didn’t want it, saved me nearly $20K. Apparently she likes beat up old trucks over new shiny shit. Lol!

10 years imagine battery tech should be quite different, could possibly be cheaper plus have greater range and shorter recharge time. While the rest of the vehicle is still good.

What is the point of buying Toyota if you’re not going to keep it long term? So all this pissing and moaning about the T4 engine’s reliability is for naught?

The average length of time people keep cars is 8.4 years. So 10 really isn’t a stretch. Especially for a Toyota.

 

Tundra was sooner , why would they change that
Want to bet on it

 

You can always swap in a used one for far less, cheaper than a battery swap.

 

Is this sarcasm? The new one will be more capable imo

 

That’s the big question for tomorrow. Do the considerable changes on paper actually translate to a real-world driving experience that’s worth a significant amount of money over a competent, well-equipped ‘23 that a dealer might even discount today.

 

You could, was going to do a JDM for the ‘99 and install it myself. But didn’t want to go through all the trouble and have it fail in a year or two. Went through that with my ‘85 4Runner, bought a junk yard engine and the crank bearings failed two years later. The other thing was it was more about “my time”and wanted a warranty, why I had the dealer do it. Sure, it wasn’t cheap, but we can afford it, do like to see how long I can make stuff last, not a very popular way of doing things these days in our easily bored wanting the latest and greatest throwaway society.

Depends, modern engines aren’t exactly cheap to replace either.

Believe most consider a Tacoma a lifestyle truck, can’t really haul or tow much, underpowered, plus gets shitty fuel economy all for the price of some fullsizes. It is a compromise truck at best. Majority of my friends drive 1 Ton diesels and tease me about my chick truck, and it is. I like it and all, but it does nothing well.

 

There are more full-size "Cowboy Cadillacs" than Tacomas. Lifestyle trucks outnumber work trucks, most truck owners never tow, haul, or offroad.

 

It’s a Swiss Army knife, it can fill a lot of roles but won’t be great at any of them. Easier to live with than larger trucks, more capable off-road than any of those 1 ton diesels and IMO more fun to drive than larger trucks. It can still hang with the broncos and jeeps on the trails but will most likely last longer and be more comfortable. If you don’t need the towing space or payload of a larger truck it’s a no brainer.

 

I was wondering why they changed from a December pricing reveal to a November 28th reveal and just wondering if the Cyber Truck pricing reveal Thursday effected Toyota's position so they don't get lost in the sauce in a sense. Hmmm Two different truck segments but still. Buzz is buzz.

 

The cheapest Rivian is $73K then subtract whatever tax credits you can get. I bet the top Tacoma’s are pushing $60K so the pricing is going to be pretty close especially when you factor in operating costs. We should see what the Cyber Truck will cost soon. Choices are good.

 

I wonder how many buyers would genuinely cross shop both. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if the base model starts at 50k, and that’s with rear wheel drive and only 250 miles range. The higher level trim with AWD and the claimed 500 mile range will probably be closer to 70k. Not to mention they need to fill their pre order demand before they can actually start selling them to potential cross shoppers. There have been so many red flags concerning its production and release that part of me thinks it was a strategic move to maintain stock price. If there’s one thing Tesla is good at it is creating hype around vaporware and false promises. I’m suspicious that they will meet their claimed production numbers. Still waiting on FSD and the roadster.

 

It is! I love my Tacoma. Used to drive massive dump trucks and earth moving equipment for a living. Why I started buying Toyotas 30+ years ago. Awfully nice to jump in something small after a long day operating those things, Tacos are great for running around and weekend warrior shit, they literally feel like toys to me. No longer work construction, so only need a lifestyle truck these days. I am pretty much Toyota’s target market, use it for commuting, and hauling hiking, skiing, cycling, camping and dirt bike equipment. Rivian or Cyber Truck would do the same. Even though I am one, getting a little bored with the Tacoma fan boyism shtick. Have been looking for something different. Those Rivians sure nice, however EVs just aren’t there yet for me. Plus there is uncertainty if Rivian will be around as a company 10 or even 5 years from now.

 

It seems like a lot of people here only keep their trucks a couple years. Maybe a lot are leases??? What’s the point of paying more for Toyota reliability if you aren’t going to keep it long enough to enjoy the benefits.