3rd Gen Manual Transmission

the gearing is different

 

Gearing is near the same final drive when you factor in diff ratios.

 

That are you talking about then? What are we supposed to see in that picture?

 

You can tell that it’s made wrong, because of the way that it is.

 

True. I mean, just look at it…

 

Exactly

dude makes claims about a transmission on the internet

then reveals he doesn't recognize a pic of his own transmission, or know basic components

 

Huh?
Do a search. I imagine it is as reliable as they come. It is not new tech, or rocket science... and they do not seem to be falling out of Tacos on a daily basis...

OK - "Mr. 20 questions" man...

There is no such thing as an average duration... Unreasonably early failures typically sound as self inflicted pain. People have glazed their clutches at 20k (admittedly) and need a new one... This is of course, not common...

Others (less than a handful) have claimed unreasonable wear, but then their conversations sound like they should be really be driving an Automatic... Most complaints or claims of wear that I've read here on TW seem to be suspect. I've seen no cases that would cause concern

The durability of the manual transmission was not one of my concerns when getting a taco. And I was not getting an Auto. Overall, (after the fact), It sounds to me that it has quite a good track record.

So far it seems to be getting better with 'age'...

 

it is new. They figured out new ways to make it wrong.

you'll see

 

Lol. You didn’t “get” me…the RC62F is reliable. I took a quick glance from my phone. I don’t memorize the differences in appearance of the RC62F vs RA60F.

Your photo is still meaningless and the RC62F is still a good trans.

 

it's not

there are no differences

that photo's pretty significant

it's not

Don't worry "certified googler". You'll see. Your truck is a '21. Give it time.
Can't say "I won't spoil it for you", cuz there's a picture.

 

Well at least Aisin did better than Getrag did with the Bronco stick.

Hi. I’m a guy who doesn’t claim to know things about manuals outside of the basics and how operate them. Can you please explain to a layperson like me the significance behind the measurement in your picture?

 

the TOB, sleeve, and fork are designed wrong. Among other things, this eventually breaks the trans. Toyota has not made a fix, and started doing this in 2005.

as opposed other companies,
-they design it right
-when there's a mistake, the engineers come out with a fix within a year
-they stop producing the flawed design
-that fix is then usually done and documented, by things like part number suffix revisions, for example the same PN now ending in B vs. A

 

The photo still doesn’t tell us anything. That photo came from the RA60F to RC62F swap thread. It is meaningless for saying some part of design is poor. It’s just a simple measurement of the length of the quill.

Oh good, so you actually don’t know the differences. The 2nd gen quill is aluminum and part of the transmission. It wears out. The 2nd gen also shipped with plentiful mismatched throwout bearings and pressure plate combos from different brands that led to throwout bearing failures.

The RC62F has a steel quill that doesn’t wear out like that and if it does, it’s replaceable because it isn’t built in to the transmission.

They did make a fix, for the third gen, by updating the design.

 

I remember when Ford did exactly this with the BW T5. Aluminum would wear through and break, and the clutch fork would be able to out a side load on the input shaft. It would eventually destroy the pilot bearing and the bearings inside the transmission. But I’ve heard of no similar issue with Toyota, at least recent Tacomas.

 

The biggest difference between 2nd and 3rd gen Tacoma's is the engine. The 2nd gen Tacoma's get their power at lower rpm's and that has an effect on when and how often you shift the transmission. Because of this you're going to have to slip the clutch more to get a 3rd gen started in 1st or reverse. You'll also have to downshift more often and spend more time in lower gears to keep the engine in its power band.

 

I hope so

 

2018 with 75k

stock tranny

stock clutch

going great with no issues.

 

That block was eventually warranted out under good faith by Toyota Corporate as tech who did the diagnosis didn't know his arse from his mouth.

 

@TacoTuesday1 Thank you for your meaningful contributions to this thread. Without your vague depictions and general obtuseness, I would have assumed my manual transmission was fine and that Toyota engineers were somewhat capable of continuing to make reliable manual transmissions, as they always have been. Thankfully, you were here to enlighten us. I've already began construction on my Tacoma cannon so I can fire this POS into the sun where it belongs before my transmission grenades itself, which appears inevitable thanks to the clear and concise evidence you have so generously provided. I'm just now seeing thousands of posts about the RC62F clubbing baby seals and tripping old ladies, not sure how I missed those in these last few years of browsing this forum almost daily. For shame, Toyota. Can I get a CVT in the Ridgeline that will replace my stardust Tacoma?

 

Can't go wrong with a manual, rock solid. If your using it as a truck and pulling trailers, then do the 2wd low mod. The reverse gear it stupid tall and you'll ride the clutch too much.