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Short hop pickup fleets will help move the market towards what made Toyota popular before Tacoma became sexy. Those fleets won’t have bells and whistles just the bare minimum and when they hit the market the cheap truck boom will start all over again as non fleet customers want one as well.

 

Rivian's exclusive contract with Amazon expired and companies are starting to order Rivian vans.

 

Sign me up! I want this one -



There's a better chance of a politician going to heaven than me ever getting one, but I can dream can't I?

 

Imagine when they have Solid State EV's available...

Toyota U.S. Electric Car Sales Increased By 10 Times In 2023
Nonetheless, plug-in hybrids still remain the majority of the manufacturer's rechargeable car sales.

https://insideevs.com/news/703436/toyota-us-electric-car-sales-2023q4/

 

From 1 sale to 10?

 

Rivian R1S outsells Tesla Model X and Ford F-150

 

Tesla offers $120,000 "Founder Edition" cybertruck

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/12/07/tesla-cybertruck-foundation-series-limited-edition/

Looks like the first customers are now getting the option to order and assigned VINs.

 

Toyota confirms 750 mi range solid-state EV battery...."a vehicle which will be charging in 10 minutes, giving a range of 750 miles,”

https://electrek.co/2024/01/11/toyota-solid-state-ev-battery-plans-750-mi-range/

 

Some fad huh?

New EV Sales In America Have Nearly Quintupled Since 2020
Nearly 1.2 million new EV's hit the U.S. market in 2023

https://jalopnik.com/new-ev-sales-in-america-have-nearly-quintupled-since-20-1851163421

 

Ill say it again.

infrastructure.

 

Almost like there needs to be an investment from the Fed governments

 

Well lookie here... weird how these things work out.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/bipartisan-infrastructure-law/evs.cfm

 

2025 Dodge Charger EV (official pics)
Available late 2024






https://twitter.com/Dodge/status/1745823749146882493

 

That bull shit was written by Toyota to keep people on the sidelines. A little bit of basic understanding of how electricity actually works proves that 10 minute charging to a range of 750 miles isn't going to happen on any scale. Also living with an EV proves that is unneeded, but Toyota keeps posting this crap.

 

This actually addresses the biggest detraction to EV purchasing...charge time and range. Many car mfgs. have been testing fast charging tech from a Michigan company with current Lithium battery tech. It will happen but not large scale as would be needed. Solid state batts are coming with the fast charge time mostly from Japanese companies. Nissan, Toyota etc. They don't want to go all out on EVs since range and charge times with current tech is the major hold back for consumer adaptation of EVs. To them it seems like they would be delivering an inferior product. To me current non solid state batts are just an in-between to Solid State and other upcoming battery tech.

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/chinese-developed-nuclear-battery-has-a-50-year-lifespan

Chinese-developed nuclear battery has a 50-year lifespan — Betavolt BV100 built with Nickel-63 isotope and diamond semiconductor material

 

Henry Ford didn’t pay for infrastructure

 

If you drive a Tesla range anxiety and charge times are simply red herrings put out by the likes of Toyota and other EV haters. I've driven my Model Y from coast to coast, from Canada to the Mexican border, 25K miles of road tripping. Its been to 30 of the 50 states and never once have I thought "gee I wished this thing charged faster." Never once have I had range anxiety. Actually more than a couple of times it was done charging and I wasn't ready to go yet. Now if you drive anything else you're at the mercy of Electrify America and others and their absolute GARBAGE reliability. But, that will change in the near future as other makers are able to use the Tesla supercharging network. There's also the issue with solid state batteries being fragile. They don't like shaking and vibrations. Seems like that would be a problem in a car.

If you have the ability to charge at home charging times are basically irrelevant. I couldn't tell you how long it takes to charge my Tesla, because I simply pay no attention. It's like my electric tooth brush, I use it, plug it in, forget about it, and it's ready to go next time I need it. Another reason home charging times are irrelevant is the biggest charger you can install is going to be 240V at 60 amps. Even if you could charge a battery in 5 minutes you're average home can't supply the power needed. It's like filling your tank at the gas station. If the pump only puts out 5 gallons a minute it does not matter that the tank could be filled faster. You're only getting what the pump/wall charger can give.

I'm not a pessimist like most EV haters. I don't assume that charging infrastructure can't be built, or that SS batteries can't be made to withstand normal car vibrations. I just get tired of the FUD from companies like Toyota. They've got one EV and it is crap. They know it, the buyers know it. If someone buys an EV today they are out of the market for sometime to come. And at the rate the dip shits at Toyota are moving I might buy an EV from them in 10+ years when I finally say goodbye to my Tesla. But, I will have had 10 years driving the most fun to drive car I've ever owned.

Believe the FUD, stay on the sideline, that's what Toyota wants you to do.

 

I was thinking more thx1138