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Knock Knock, it’s cylinder 3

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by Texoma, Nov 28, 2023.

  1. Dec 17, 2023 at 8:17 PM
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    Should have taken that last pic with a ruler or pen for reference
     
  2. Dec 17, 2023 at 8:43 PM
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    Looks like you found #3 rod bearings that made their way outside of their normal habitat.
     
  3. Dec 18, 2023 at 4:24 AM
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    rag is 8x8
     
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  4. Dec 18, 2023 at 4:24 AM
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    that’s what I’m hoping and not cylinder wall shavings
     
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  5. Dec 18, 2023 at 8:27 AM
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    You’ll know soon enough! But cylinder walls are steel sleeves, and this doesn’t look like steel
     
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  6. Dec 18, 2023 at 8:39 AM
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    I’ll know for sure by Saturday.
     
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  7. Jan 2, 2024 at 2:42 PM
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    Did you get further into it? If yes, what did you find?
     
  8. Jan 2, 2024 at 3:48 PM
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    Stalled out. I had a 14mm triple Square for the headbolts, and they’re actually a 10mm double hex, which is being delivered tomorrow. So I’ll tear down more this week and hopefully completed tear down by the end of next weekend.
     
  9. Jan 8, 2024 at 9:01 AM
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    I think I found a nail in the coffin for the ole motor. 3 and 4 piston walls are scored. #4 I can’t really feel with my finger, but my finger nail can feel the scoring. #3 I can feel how bad it is with my finger alone. The crank 3 and 4 is scored and the rod bearings are toast. Also looks like the thrust bearings took a hit as well. I personally think it was oil starvation, but really I don’t think I can find that out. If it was just the crank, I’d get a new one and move forward with rebuild, but since the cylinder walls are scored, I don’t think I can hone that out. 3rd pic is of a good cylinder for example.

    IMG_3301.jpg IMG_3302.jpg IMG_3303.jpg IMG_3304.jpg IMG_3305.jpg IMG_3306.jpg IMG_3307.jpg
     
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  10. Jan 8, 2024 at 9:02 AM
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    I gotta say, the difference between using the 14mm triple square and the 10mm double hex is huge. Triple square has a huge amount of movement compared to double hex does not move
     
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  11. Jan 8, 2024 at 9:28 AM
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    Well phooey. What's the plan so far?
     
  12. Jan 8, 2024 at 9:59 AM
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    used 4.0 for $1650 delivered is well within my budget. I’ll do a light tear down and reseal on it. Mainly reseal the timing cover and replace rear main, then drop it in the Taco and be done.
     
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  13. Jan 8, 2024 at 11:35 AM
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    So you are saying, that you think oil starvation is the root of the cylinder wall scoring, and the knocking? Do you remember a time when your truck was sitting non-level for an extended period in a situation where oil starvation could have gotten its roots? Nice pics by the way, you're definitely skilled at engine teardown!!
     
  14. Jan 8, 2024 at 11:47 AM
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    it’s a possibility that I could have been at an awkward angle over the past 13.5yrs of this motors life, I do wheel it hard. The bearings are what caused the cylinder scoring for sure.
     
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  15. Jan 9, 2024 at 3:56 PM
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    Yikes. Those rod-cap bearings look trashed.

    Does Toyota publish any specs or recommendations for the max range of engine roll and pitch angle while running?
     
  16. Jan 9, 2024 at 5:33 PM
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    I don’t know. I do remember at Jambo my buddy in an FJC was at an angle that he was teetering on the verge of rolling and his engine started knocking some so he shut it off.
     
  17. Jan 9, 2024 at 5:34 PM
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    Here it is

    IMG_0070.jpg
     
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    Looks fine.

    IMG_0070.jpg
     
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    Update on the replacement motor. I’m going to have to hold off on that purchase because my roof decided to exit the chat after last weeks wind.

    IMG_3332.jpg
     
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