4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

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Cobras? Thank you for your service sir!

 

You’re trying way too hard to hide your envy.

 

You are cool with the IsoDynamic seats?

 

The reduced rear seat room is the least of my concern. I don’t ride in the back and I rarely have more than one passenger. The camo print is meh but even if they are just a little more comfortable on washboard roads, why not.

 

Nah. I’m all set with driving a truck with giant trd pro lettering embossed in the tailgate and giant black shiny fender flares saying look at me, I’m having a mid life crisis.

 

So I have a question. Let’s say you wait til December this year to buy a TRD Pro. Do you buy a new Tacoma TRD Pro or a used Tundra TRD Pro? Currently the least expensive used Tundra is $62,000 so let’s just assume it will drop to the same price as a Tacoma TRD Pro (we won’t speculate price for now).
Also this assumes people here are fine with the larger truck. They are just looking for “best value”.

 

I was looking through the online specs, comparing the OR, Trailhunter and Pro.

The ISO seats are listed as standard and not optional. I think that is a mistake. It will prevent some buyers (me) from buying the Pro.

 

Did I?

Parents want better for their children than what they had, so each generation gets a little more spoiled than the last, so “needs” change. There are a lot of young people out there that can’t even be bothered with getting their drivers license let alone caring about what level trim a vehicle has. There will be a day when people will not know how to even drive because all vehicles will be autonomous. The more tech takes over, the less we have to learn, the more spoiled and comfortable we become. Machines are supposed to make our life easier. Needs again will change.

Some of you get pissy about it, but just the way it is.

Have grown to like automatic transmissions and power/heated mirrors, maybe one day I will want heated seats and steering wheel. I tend to run hot so don’t feel the need.

Toyota could have built that 1.2” of travel into the suspension like what GM did, instead of those gimmicky seats.

 

Here’s what I don’t get- if someone wants a spartan truck with no quality of life features, why even consider a new truck at all? Just buy an old clapped out 2nd gen or whatever’s available and keep it on the road forever. Why spend money on a platform that’s built to house features they don’t even want? Genuinely makes no sense to me. Seems like willfully engaging with consumerism while pretending to reject it. I say this as someone that specifically wants all the fancy features in a truck, so it’s not a criticism. Help me understand

 

I did, drove a 1st Gen for 20 years, ran it up to 435K miles. Got tired of it breaking down and constantly needing attention. Even if you take extremely good care of something there is a point where it continues to fail. Shit wears out, even on Toyotas! Got tired of fixing it, and needed something more reliable. Can’t tell you how many trips I had to cancel because something broke right before. Bought a new truck more out of necessity than wants. The simple basic truck that you used to be able to get is no longer available when buying new. There are a bunch of options on them now, that I don’t want or will use, but still have to pay for them because of the markets “needs”.

I still have that old truck, put a new engine it last summer. Wife mainly drives it, have rebuilt the whole undercarriage on it over the years, and it still needs work, rebuilding the driveshaft here for the third time when the weather warms up. She doesn’t give two shits about vehicles, nothing more than an appliance. Bought a new truck because I am tired of working on the old one, and I still have to work on it. Probably end up getting her a new vehicle too, but not because I want to.

 

Sure, that’s a lot of miles and I totally get that you’re looking to replace it with something more reliable now. Why not look for a low trim late 2nd gen-early 3rd gen with around 100k? That would serve you far better than anything Toyota is going to make today. I don’t see how a brand new truck makes any sense for what you’re looking for, aside from the “I have a brand new truck” mindset (which I’m assuming you would purportedly reject having)

Here’s my rationale: I like tech and creature comforts in vehicles. Things like CarPlay, Adaptive Cruise, Lane Centering, heated seats, etc. are extremely important to me when considering to replace my 2014 Crosstrek with. Those requirements discount any pre-4th gen Tacoma entirely; that’s why I’m interested in the new gen. If I didn’t care about those things, I wouldn’t even be considering the 4th gen. Why are you?

 

I can get a comparably equipped Ford Ranger for about $10K less than a 2024 Tacoma. Did a little bit of research and the 2.3 Ecoboost is reliable but the 10 spd auto is troublesome. AH well!

 

How many total miles are on the truck now after the engine swap?

 

What trims are you comparing?

 

Bought a new 3rd Gen ACLB already. Tired of buying used and their unknowns. Buying new I know exactly how it is treated from the get go, I am super OCD about mechanical maintenance. Only reason I am looking again is because I am still fixing that old truck. I buy another new one and my wife gets the 3rd Gen. I like the 4th Gen, just disappointed they discontinued the Access Cab as I would buy a ‘24 AC in a heartbeat, Toyota decided the market didn’t want the access cab. Do like the cab storage and the easy access, speaking of needs, fought getting stuff in and out of my extra cab for 20 years, sure do like those access doors, but those are gone in the 4th Gen, so have to buy a double cab to get easy entry to the rear cab storage, which increases cost for something I don’t use, rear passenger seats. So the $35K truck is now $45K. Also have to bump up from the SR trim to the SR5 to get the long bed. 5’ beds won’t work for me.

The car play is nice, will admit to that. Don’t care for adaptive cruise control, it is too touchy and likes to slam on the brakes at inappropriate times, don’t like lane centering either, too nannying…have all the safety stuff turned off because I find it annoying. My wife would like heated seats as she is always cold.

Wife had cancer, needed a reliable vehicle to get her back and forth to her appointments. With used it is a crap shoot. Can’t have that. Think new trucks are expensive, try cancer even with good insurance. There is a reason why I am cheap. Far more important things than silly vehicles.

 

In canada. 2024 Tacoma 4X4 Double cab $50K plus tax (cheapest model) 2024 Ranger XL 4X4 double cab $43K - cooperate discount plus tax.

 

Just a couple hundred miles over 435K, so not much. Her commute is only 3/4s of a mile. We don’t take it out of town as I don’t trust it even with the new engine. Waiting for her spring break to do the driveshaft, maybe even the summer, since the last shop I had do it took 6 weeks because they were so backed up. Don’t want it down for that long right now, plus noticed the rear axle has a little play in it when I tossed on the snow tires, that rear end has been rebuilt 3 times. So always something with a truck that old. Quite tired of the damn thing really.

Gave her the choice of getting a new vehicle, but she didn’t want it. We did an art studio for her instead, somethings are more important than a vehicle. She had cancer, so I want her happy now, if it ever rears its’ ugly head again. She spends hours upon hours in the art studio, while she only uses the truck maybe 10 minutes a day. Most of the summer it doesn’t even get driven. So that weighed in getting her a new vehicle, why buy one if it doesn’t get driven all that much? It is more about me tired of fixing it.

 

I would guess an XL/XLT and building it piece by piece like Ford allows to an Off Road or Sport. I played around with the Ranger configurator a bit the last week or so and was surprised how much of the same stuff I could get added for less.

It was surprising because F150's are usually not the cheapest trucks you can build, and I guess I expected the same thing with the Ranger.

 

If it hasn't been put up yet..........
Tacoma_Allocation_Sheet.xlsx - Google Sheets

and if you look across the bottom, you can see every model and then you can click on that model or in the upper left-hand corner you can put your dealers name in and it will take you right to your dealer and what they have allocated and what’s on the ground.

 

If you’re anxiously waiting to drop 50 large on your next Tacoma, then this might be the site you should be checking.

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/

Luckily, Toyota is a proven master of carefully, uh, “managing” supply, and besides, early trucks are apparently already built and sitting in a lot in Mexico.

So, do not panic: the distributors and dealers will be fine, as expensive add-ons and markups should not be greatly affected.