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Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by vin510, Oct 19, 2019.

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  1. Jul 9, 2020 at 9:10 AM
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    Maybe an hour if you’re removing the antenna and motor
     
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  2. Jul 9, 2020 at 9:37 AM
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    @Running Board Man ?
     
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  3. Jul 9, 2020 at 10:20 PM
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    If your OEM antenna only has two wires, you're going to have to deal with wiring up relays like in the diagram posted above. The only problem I see with using your own relays, is that the limit switches may not be in the motor and is handled by the relay module. If this is the case, the motor will always try to run, even when it's reached its full travel. You can test to see if the OEM motor has built in limit switches by hooking it up to a battery and see if it stops when it reaches full travel. If it does, you can easily wire up a couple of relays to make it work without trying to find the OEM module. Test out the motor first, and if it stops on its own at full travel, let me know and I can draw up a diagram for relays for you.
     
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  4. Jul 17, 2020 at 5:42 AM
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    Well because the OEM antenna needs the OEM relay and that relay has 8 wire pin out I just made it simple and bought a universal power antenna,
    3 wire setup ground, power, radio trigger.

    Had to use the OEM antenna fender plastic cap with some trimming to get the universal antenna to fit correctly in the fender hole and look OEM.

    Cost 65.00

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  5. Jul 17, 2020 at 5:44 AM
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    you couldn't fit the oem mast in?
    i just ordered a new mast in case mine is a bit bent from decades of wear n tear

    trees, garage door... that antenna sticks up relatively high lol
     
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  6. Jul 17, 2020 at 5:51 AM
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    My original antenna was not powered,

    I bought an OEM power antenna but didn’t know it needed an OEM relay,

    So the universal power antenna one will see how it works long term,

    So far so good,
     
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  7. Jul 17, 2020 at 5:52 AM
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    does the universal go up as high?
     
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  8. Jul 17, 2020 at 5:55 AM
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    Yes, it’s 31”,

    It goes up and down if the radio is on when the key ignition is turned on or off,
    and goes up and down if you turn the radio off from the radio power source
     
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  9. Jul 17, 2020 at 5:57 AM
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  10. Jul 17, 2020 at 6:00 AM
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    Because it’s a universal antenna it took a little extra time to make it fit.

    The bracket that attaches to the body and the fender plastic sleeve needs to be customized,

    Use the OEM Toyota fender sleeve tho, the aftermarket ones don’t fit correctly,
    I had to drill out the sleeve a bit larger and cut the bottom off just a bit to make it work

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  11. Oct 5, 2020 at 4:12 PM
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    Ok so the aftermarket one has failed 2 times,
    The motor just stops so I'm trying a 3rd time under warranty.

    So time to revisit the OEM antenna.

    I ran a ground wire to the negative side and to the ground strap on the antenna that goes to the metal
    motor case.

    I connected a positive wire to both of the green wires coming out if the wire connector,

    Nothing

    I was afraid to connect the positive and negative wire in the wire connector incase it shorts,

    Do you know if the connector wires in the 2 wire green harness are positive or negative?

    I want to see if this antenna had a limit switch inside

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  12. Oct 5, 2020 at 6:19 PM
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    The OEM power antenna doesn’t have a limit switch, the limit switch is part of the antenna relay. I don’t know if the antenna relay is still available from Toyota.
     
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    If you still need help with this I can.

    For now I'll just say that the OEM antenna is NOT an automatic antenna. It is a Semi-automatic. Meaning that it has NO inner limits. The limit are controlled by timers in the OEM relay Module and that's what made it fully auto. You can use regular Bosch style 5 pi relays but you will have to use a switch to control the antenna "manually".

    What exactly was the fault with the antennas. What do you mean the "motor just stops". Just stops working? Stops when going down? Does not go down at all? Does not go up?
     
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  14. Jan 15, 2024 at 5:43 AM
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    I just replaced it with an aftermarket antenna that connects to my radio. Radio powers it on and off
     
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  15. Jan 15, 2024 at 10:05 AM
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    Yes you mentioned that in post #31. Saw that and that's what made me ask as to what the actual problem was with the first two. Guess third time was the charm.

    In any case I was going to send you this controller board to use with the OEM. It came out of an antenna that the mast broke. DOA. It should work on a semiautomatic like the OEM and the one I am expecting delivery today. So will be testing it on that one.

    I'll also be testing a circuit of my own design, that anyone that can twist wires together, can put together to make a timed controller.
     
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    Ohhh, I was trying to install an OEM antenna originally and the truck was not wired for it.
    I didn't know I needed a relay, was to complicated to install the OEM one over the aftermarket
     
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Genuine Toyota Accessories PT580-35050-SB Bed Mat for Short Bed Tacoma Models Black, 59 1/2" L X 52 1/2" W X 3/8" H
$191.20
Power Stop Front Truck & Tow Brake Kit For 2005-2009 Toyota 4Runner, 2004-2010 FJ Cruiser, 2016-2023 Tacoma - 6 Lug Drilled and Slotted Rotors Carbon Fiber Ceramic Brake Pads Replacement
$229.78
ATOTO S8 Ultra Double Din Car Stereo, 7" Android in-Dash Navigation, Wireless CarPlay & Android Auto, Dual BT w/aptX HD, Gesture Operation, VSV&LRV, Built-in 4G Cellular Modem, 4G+64G, S8G2A78UL-N
$439.90
Power Stop K2324 Front Z23 Carbon Fiber Brake Pads with Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors Kit For Toyota Tundra Sequoia Caliper Casting #13WL
$235.88
AISIN CKT-040 OE Matched Clutch Kit - Compatible with Select Toyota 4Runner, T100, Tacoma, Tundra
$235.47
Lexus GS300 SC300 Spark Plug Set of 6 Denso NEW 90919 01196 / PK16TR11 / 3289
$63.95
Barrier Bond - Brushable Seam Sealer, Quart Can with 30.4 Fluid Ounces, Seam Sealer for Automotive Joints & Body Repair, Paintable Gray
$44.99
Genuine Toyota 89452-35020 Throttle Position Sensor
$67.80
Denso (3194) K16TR11 Spark Plugs, Pack of 4
$19.95
Bedrug Classic Bed Mat | 66x98 - You Cut to Fit, Charcoal Grey, (Models w/Drop-In Style Bedliners) | BMX00D
$119.95
Dupli-Color ETR350007 Premium Truck Bed Coating, Black, 15 oz.
$19.98
Sanyipace Sewer Camera Self-Leveling 165FT/50M, Drain Pipe Inspection Camera Built-in 512Hz Transmitter, Meter Counter, with Microphone Speaker DVR Recorder, 16GB TF Card, Guide Wheel (5mm Cable)
$1,399.99
TOYOTA 90341-10011 Plug, Straight Screw
$7.12
35178-30010
$10.90
Automatic Transmission Filter Strainer Fit For Fit For Toyota Tacoma Lexus 3533060030
$23.23
Lisle 52750 Stethoscope Kit
$25.06
Spicer 5-1330-1X U-Joint Kit
$33.76
Denso First Time Fit Alternator - 210-0461
$163.78
Visdector BT10 Car Battery Tester 12V 100-2000 CCA Digital Battery Load Tester, Automotive Alternator Starter Tester, Auto Battery Analyzer for Car, SUV, Light Truck, Boat
$34.99
Bilstein 33-230313 Monotube Shock Absorber, 46mm
$105.97
Bilstein 33-230443 Monotube Shock Absorber, 46mm
$105.97
ALEOED M12x1.25 mm Self-Locking Nylon Insert Hex Lock Nuts, Pack of 6
$12.99
MOOG K80827 Front Lower Suspension Ball Joint for Toyota Tacoma
$23.51
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