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361 miles on ODO broken lug stud WTH??

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Halloween, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. Jan 18, 2024 at 3:18 AM
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    Could, can, will......but haven't.
    I also torque my ubolts to 100#'s! :D

    Anyhow, my truck isn't the one with issues.
    OP and his snapped lugs is.
    Again, was simply stating to OP it would've had to been excessive torque to snap them.
     
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  2. Jan 18, 2024 at 7:47 PM
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    Toyota spends millions in R&D and calculates that 83ft lbs is ideal for this vehicle. Some guy decides that it should be 110 because 70mph.
     
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  3. Jan 18, 2024 at 11:35 PM
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    As previously mentioned. My lug nuts at 110#'s isn't the one with problems.

    Torque is determined by thread pitch and bolt size. It isn't some secret Toyota calculation.

    You can all feel free to read back through my 1210 posts and find 0 complaints about problems with this truck.
    ;)
     
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  4. Jan 19, 2024 at 2:21 AM
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    You don’t have problems…..YET

    :yay:

    And I hope you done have any issues. I suppose we all have our differences in maintenance ideology. As long as it’s working for you, that’s great
     
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    If and when problems arise from torquing lug nuts to 110#'s,
    I will gladly come back and post the results.
     
  6. Jan 19, 2024 at 12:02 PM
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    Vorsteiner support confirmed the wheels are hub centric. I see in multiple threads where 50% or more of folks are saying they are lug centric. So odd that this is debatable. https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...opinions-on-venomrex-wheels-purchased.588542/

    Whats the probability that if one or many lug nuts were over or under torqued that the final blow wouldn't be until 6 months later? I'm in New England, its been very cold, I run my tires between 28 and 30 psi typically. Just trying to provide whatever I can.

    It is getting fixed and I'm going back to Toyota wheels, but generally I don't know if I'm going to get any concrete answer on why this has happened.
     
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  7. Jan 19, 2024 at 1:15 PM
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    sucks you had to go through this. Appreciate your posting and sharing
     
  8. Jan 19, 2024 at 1:22 PM
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    Bad wheel studs. It happens. I’ve had ARP studs snap that can hold 2k plus pounds of torque on a 74 C10 pickup. When I sent them back ARP looked at them and determined that the studs were not up to standards. Send new studs for all 4 corners and replaced the broken brake drum.

    Don’t know if Toyota would even look at them or if they even give a shit but it’s worth an effort.
     
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    Again, Post pictures for the front of the wheel and either push the drum back on or take it off. Need to see the hub. Just from what I saw didn't look like a loose wheel. Your holes would be much more wallowed. Looks more like sheared studs. My guess would be that you didn't get many threads on the studs and they snapped off one or two and with the wheels being lug centric, it just took a little bit of bounce for catastrophe.

    You should ask the wheel manufacturer if they recommend ET lug nuts for their wheels like SCS does.
     
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  10. Jan 19, 2024 at 7:26 PM
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    Reminds me of folks using 10w-30 or 5w-30 motor oil because when the Yota recommended oil weight is 0w-20 as it get too thin.
     
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  11. Jan 20, 2024 at 7:26 AM
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    Where you using the lug nuts that can with your truck, or did you buy splines for the aftermarket wheels?
     
  12. Jan 20, 2024 at 8:42 AM
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    All good points. I got the truck back. Went with Toyota wheels and going to sell the 3 non damaged Venomrex wheels.

    When I purchased the Venomex wheels they came with conical lug nuts and wasn't told/recomended to install custom threads (not that its their responsibility anyways). Out of curiousity I asked the Toyota dealership mechanic if he think this could be connected to an alignment service 6 months prior at a different Toyota dealership. He said all it takes is one loose lug nut, and over time the virbration effects all of them. Some of the threads were sheared, some were bent, one was missing. He noted yes hub centric/oem is recommended but didn't harp on the after market being a problem. He said there isn't much you should expect anyone to admit or say if it was that long ago, and even now its hard to present conclusive evidence.

    I'm moving on now, my conclusion being I'm glad no one got hurt and I will be re-checking my torque periodically.

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  13. Jan 20, 2024 at 9:01 AM
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    Wheels with conical lugs are certainly “lug centric”
     
  14. Jan 20, 2024 at 9:05 AM
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    We usually see studs snap due to error, I’ve done it when I was an apprentice, it was error.

    Over torquing usually stretches the studs, it takes a lot to break them with an impact gun.
     
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