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4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

Discussion in '4th Gen. Tacomas (2024+)' started by shakerhood, Aug 26, 2021.

  1. Feb 6, 2024 at 3:58 PM
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  2. Feb 6, 2024 at 4:24 PM
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    I don’t know, back in 2016 when the third gen was released a lot of people were making the argument that midsize trucks were getting too close in price to the full size market especially considering the lack of features and capability. To their credit the 2016 was basically a truck designed in 2004.

    The higher level trims of the new Tacoma’s would be considered full size by yesterdays standard. The size of the truck alone, but also the level of features you can option. Features like heated/ventilated seats were completely unheard of in the mid size class. Real coil over suspension was class leading and could only be found in 1500. Power wise the I force has more torque at lower rpm than the old tundra. It’s also sharing the same frame as the new LC 250 a more expensive platform. The TH will have the same differentials from the tundra and possibly the same steering rack, allowing owners to run 35’s most likely. It’s a baby tundra, essentially we’re buying a full size truck and the price reflects that.

    The sr base engine is now closer in performance to the outgoing v6 than the old 2.7 was. That should be a very appealing truck for buyers who want a more old school truck experience and price.
     
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  3. Feb 6, 2024 at 4:45 PM
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    Talk about entitled, it’s literally the range topping truck. In what world are you living in that a truck with thousands in factory added accessories should cost as much as an off-road. It has a 3 inch OME factory tuned lift, full steel skid plates, including rear diff and transfer case, factory sliders that’s are bolted to the frame and designed to handle the trucks full weight. Rigid LED fog lights and light bar, ARB on board air compressor. It has a arb full steel rear bumper designed to meet strict safety standards. (Thats over $1500 alone aftermarket) It uses the steering rack and huge 9.5” and 9”differentials from the tundra along with stronger CV’s. It has a the entire set of premium upgraded features along with more luxurious seats. Thats package alone would be close to 9k. People were paying 55k for third gen pros, with a few badges and bolt on shocks. You would easily spend close to 10k to add the same amount of quality aftermarket parts to an off-road. Come back to earth.
     
  4. Feb 6, 2024 at 4:56 PM
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    They build more so they sell more? Are full size truck buyers different? Do they use them as actual work trucks and wear them out and replace them quickly so long term reliability isn't an issue? Do mid-size truck buyers use their trucks more conservatively and expect them to last longer? Don't bother commenting that you use your Tacoma as a "real" truck, there are always exceptions. I think it's a mix of price, garage-ability, more maneuverable (on and off road), and the right size for the need. Why buy more truck than you need. A lot/most truck owners (mid or full) could probably do everything they need to with a Maverick or Ridgeline, but who wants to drive those? I read a lot of "for that price, I'll get a full-size" comments. If you don't need the extra space/towing capacity, how is losing maneuverability and the ability to park in a garage a better value if they are the same price? And if you do honest apple to apple features comparison, the full-size trucks are in fact more expensive (if you don't compare a heavily discounted model to a brand new model).
     
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  5. Feb 6, 2024 at 5:28 PM
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    Stumbled across this pretty detailed video tonight, and I’m really just not interested in this gen. Yet. Maybe it will grow on me at some point, but this is an SR and my 22 SR has things like a dampened tailgate and bed cubby that just seems weird to have been removed now? And the looks are really not my cup of tea. Exterior and interior both seem worse than the 3rd gen to me.

    https://youtu.be/OcFen76UbPg?si=CSxYTmmO7TAOY2S0
     
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  6. Feb 6, 2024 at 5:33 PM
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    Don’t make it personal man, that’s just in bad taste and shows he struck a nerve pointing out your flawed logic. Only the TH and PRO are close to a full size but that’s just track width. The rest truck is still smaller overall, which some of us want. Compare the 4g frame to the 3g. The 4g has a clearly more expensive and robust frame. And you still can find the midsize trucks cheaper if you compare similar features. The base model increase by 3k. That’s seems reasonable considering the amount of upgrades you get, SS 3.0 is included, massive upgrade, plus inflation.
     
  7. Feb 6, 2024 at 5:34 PM
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    Same size? Clearly you don't know how to read a specification table. Which truck will fit in my garage?

    I did post the a whole day ago, so I'll repost it.
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    Full size trucks including Tundra have serious cash on the hoods while inventories grow. Hard to ignore that trend before paying an uncomfortable sum for any new Tacoma. I’d still expect Gen4 to sell very well out of the gate, but later on, incentives will be inevitable in order to sustain those initial sales numbers.

    No reason to pay more now for blank buttons, when later you might pay less for real ones.
     
  9. Feb 6, 2024 at 6:09 PM
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    They can’t wrap their head around the fact that the midsize class has changed. It’s no longer 2005 where the only competition is a shitty ford ranger. The 3g platform is 18 years old. Of course it’s gonna be more expensive now. The same thing has happened to every successful segment in the industry. Happened to crossovers and full size trucks. They’re more expensive and luxurious but now sell better than ever. This trend created by competition has pros and cons, but objectively it has created to be a better vehicle, much closer now to the full size class in several metrics. They would bitch if Toyota went the opposite direction and focused on affordability.
     
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  11. Feb 6, 2024 at 6:19 PM
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    The deals right now on full size trucks are tempting. Interest rates still remain fairly high though. I could actually see taco sales increase from the initial release if they drop.
     
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    Paid cash for my 16, great decision. Nice having one less payment hanging over your head.
     
  13. Feb 6, 2024 at 7:14 PM
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    2nd/third gen is a more apt comparison. Length stayed the same, cab got taller and track width increased by 3 inches. I would imagine it still feels smaller than a tundra in person. Turing radius got worse which sucks.

    You could always get a full size for cheaper if you bought used though. Some people value other characteristics of the truck. Looks like it still has better approach, departure, break over angle and articulation than the tundra. The 4g is closer to a full size in comfort and performance though. Sharing some of the same components and architecture. Same TNGA platform, just different dimensions. Having a limitation like garage space is a very reasonable reason to choose one over the other. I still prefer the midsize even if they have gotten slightly bigger. Fits my needs and lifestyle better.
     
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  14. Feb 6, 2024 at 7:26 PM
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    2nd and 3rd Gen Tacoma share the same Cab, just the addition of high strength steels.
     
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    They’re are more expensive because they are better. I cross shopped used full sizes when buying my 16. I could have gotten a used one for a comparable price to my 16. But the Tacoma fit my needs better. I’m clearly not the only one because mid size trucks sales have taken off. More buyers means more competition. More features, better safety, more performance, etc. I don’t mind, I’ll still choose what vehicle fits my lifestyle better. If I needed to tow or haul more payload and gear I wouldn’t shop midsize. Plenty of full size buyer fit into that category. I think these will sell well because it’s given full size buyers a similar level of refinement in a smaller more livable package.
     
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    I lumped them together for that reason. I Should have been more clear. I was comparing the 4g dimension changes to the 2nd/3rd gen.
     
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    That’s cool but I still will never pay over $45K for a Tacoma. You can bolt on a million accessories but at the end of the day it’s still just a Tacoma.
     
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    Gotcha.:thumbsup:
     
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    Actual I was told at Cranbrook Toyota 2 weeks ago that you can "only" get the TRD Off Road Premium Auto (+$11,400) with the 5' bed. I need a 6' bed for skis. I guess I'll have to get another Sport but I'm going to wait till 2025. :canada:
     
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    That logic makes sense if your perspective is based the 18 year old platform. The 4g is a completely different beast. I’ll have to drive it before making that decision myself. The specs alone change my feeling about price point. You also ignored the point that you can’t bolt on larger rear diffs, stronger CV axles and a stronger steering rack, larger brakes, additional cross member, and still have a factory warranty. Those are the bones of the vehicle.
     

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