Alignment help, tracking to the right.

Agreed. The specs on the Tacoma allow for a minimum of 1.4 degrees. That will certainly light up green, but you are asking for a lot of wander.

 

Understood.

 

Well my truck is under the new recall so it's definitely going back.

 

I've been thinking about doing that, I'd rather not spend any money out of pocket on a truck with just under 1,500 on it. But I may have to bite the bulllet.

 

It's going to be an uphill battle trying to get the dealer to go the extra distance on a new truck for no pay. They'll just point at the factory specs and tell you it's fine

 

My 23 Sport “drifts” right as I would call it from day I took delivery I felt a tad strong when I first got it so brought it back to dealer . They said alignment and everything fine. I read someplace maybe here , it’s a safety thing drifting right away from head on if you fell asleep IDK but I’m used to it

 

saying something is fine is not the same as something actually being fine.
employee down the hall left every wheel loose on a car. Unfortunately I was not there to see them fall off. I’m sure he said it was fine.
Did get to see other stuff though. Like a car fall off a lift.

an alignment means driving straight.

if you have road crown and requested 0 toe then that would require more attention to the steering wheel, for the benefit of less tire wear and a vehicle that is more responsive to turn.
Me personally I prefer that: 0 toe, and not 10 minutes.

a tech doing a good alignment looks for good measurements and good road test characteristics. Not “green”.

 

Ok with me dude , I have 13 k on my truck , drove back and forth to Florida , if you insinuated my truck is not as safe as should be I’d say you way over stating my situation.

 

Well that could very well be the case. However with this new recall I may have more leverage. I'm also thinking super hard now about dumping this POS, and I'm wondering how this recall will effect resale value? I not happy at the moment. What a turd of a truck.

 

what recall

 

Lol.

 

You don't need leverage, you need a tech who wants to put the effort in.

But you sound unhappy with the truck. Just find a overpriced 2nd gen and thank me later

 

I had a 2010 SR5. No thanks I'm moving on from the Toyota brand forever.

The frame on my 2010. The truck had 59,000 miles on it. I've decided Toyota is Mexican built scrap metal

 

This is how every vehicle I’ve ever owned is. All are/were 4/RWD. I too think it’s a safety thing. I don’t know that for sure, but you certainly wouldn’t want a vehicle moving to the left if a driver became impaired while behind the wheel.

My guess is that the truck started out normal in this thread and it’s now worse from the dealer screwing with it. But I didn’t read every post. For what it’s worth, even with the drifting right, it should take practically no effort to keep the vehicle straight. It’s not like the wheel is tugging on your hand to go right.

 

I have yet to drive a vehicle that drives perfectly straight when you let go of the wheel. That is not normal alignment. Examples of a wheels falling off from an incompetent tech are a terrible comparison to say a vehicle needs an alignment simply because it moves a bit to the right when you let go of the wheel. We don’t drive with no hands, so paying attention to what it does when you let go really is not a metric for anything useful.

 

10 minutes of toe is added if you want straight tracking.
Steering wheel gets centered during alignment.
not every front end has the same precision.

hand on the wheel can be a normal condition. Provided there is not a large amount of constant pull to be fought such as caused by uneven measurements.

 

That's fair, most people including myself tend to just chuck the sheet.

For your use of the truck I'd still recommend the same "specs" I suggested. If you like a lighter steering wheel or have alot of tram-lines from semis on your roads then i'd suggest maybe +0.6* camber on both sides but otherwise thats my recommendation.

As long as you have that cross caster you'll be okay. It is preferable to have the vehicle drift right instead of left so in the event a guy let's Jesus take the wheel you end up in the ditch not oncoming traffic. How that's interpreted varies. I think the "official" standard is the vehicle should track 500m when you let go of the wheel before drifting off.

Near me it's primarily highway driving on 2 lane highways so " the right lane" is where you spend most of your time. 0.5* more camber on the right side is about ideal for most vehicles to drive 700-800m before drifting off and usually my goal unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

If you want a truck that drives straight as an arrow you should get a chev.... you'll have major engine work every 20'000-80'000 kms but the electric steering in chevs is the cats ass. Alignments can be waaay out to lunch with numbers that would veer you hard into the ditch but the electric steering would compensate for it. Only early telltale sign of a problem in the front end usually is the tires wearing horrendously. As a chevy tech though, I warn you that they are nowhere near as reliable as a Toyota

 

that damage is caused from neglect. It’s not a Toyota issue. I’ve lived in and out of rustbelt states all my life. If you don’t treat and clean your undercarriage and frame, this will happen to any damn manufactured vehicle. It’s not a Toyota only thing.

 

Folks that hate their trucks should sell them quickly. They should spend their hard earned dollars on a truck they can like. Life is too short.

 

I'm sorry, but you don't understand alignments. Toe has absolutely nothing to do with your ability to turn or steering wheel input due to road crown. Toe is also not measured in minutes, it is measured in degrees or inches. If you were to ask a tech for 10 minutes of toe, he is probably going to throw you out of the shop for being "that guy". You also do not ask for zero toe. That is a dumb as asking for your alignment in minutes. It should be slightly positive on a rear wheel drive or slightly negative on a front wheel drive. You want zero tow when you are driving. Your angles change when you are moving so you compensate for that when setting the angles in a static manner.