2024 Tacoma Review

I read the article again and the source of that 50% article info is actually Toyota itself.

I think it's sticker-price issue. The "entry-price" is now easily approaching $40k (+).

 

Yea that boxed frame is really gonna keep it from rusting out…. More like buying owners a couple extra years…. Or umm Toyota

 

The boxed frame may be even worse for rust since you can’t easily treat the inside or see what’s going on. Also Toyotas engineer said it allowed them to use thinner metal in areas to save weight. Thinner metal equals rusting through even faster to me.

 

I'd prefer for the frames to not rust out, however I wasn't extremely disappointed when Toyota paid me 150% Kelly Blue book retail on my Gen 1 Tacoma with 198K miles on it back in 2007 as a factory buy back. My 2nd gen with over 225K miles got an entirely new frame free of charge by Toyota. In the upper mid-west most if not every auto gets rusted and corroded to a piece of scrap metal with all the chemical salt treatments on highways during the winter. Will be interesting to see if the box frame can change the game for corrosion resistance however I doubt that it will.

 

Wow, not hearing great things about the 24 Tacoma... might buy a 23 before its too late and keep my 16 as well.

 

Same improvements can be obtained and felt with almost any Tacoma when changing to top quality suspension and tires or replacing worn out suspension, tires and an accurate alignment.

Could it be the frame? maybe or could it be that the new suspension, tires and accurate alignment that made the massive improvement for you?

 

There's nothing good that I could say about the new truck that would garner any response from you guys other than a dispute in some form. Please continue to live in(and drive) your bubble.

 

like what?

 

Such as?

In my long post earlier I did point out a couple of improvements. But on the whole, the latest Taco is a just reflection of ever-tightening eco regulations.

A 2.4L 4-cylinder making... 278 HP? That's 116 HP / liter.
The old 4.0 V6 made ~230HP, which is 58 HP/liter.

It's going to take a decade or more to answer this question with statistical validity but I'm guessing the 116 HP/liter powerplant is a lot less likely to make it to 300K miles and beyond.

 

Eco regulations don't concern me, but since you brought up horsepower, why not torque? 306 LB-FT vs. 238 LB-FT in the 3rd gen. But none of that matters right?

 

My point is not that it's better to have less power & less torque. Of course it's always better to have more of those if possible without sacrificing too much else. It's more that pushing a smaller engine to produce the same (or much greater, in this case) power/torque is going to cause that smaller engine to wear harder & probably not as long.

Power = heat & stress, more heat & stress in a smaller area (smaller pistons, rods, bearings, etc.) likely going to cause those parts to wear faster. Assuming other things are held equal, i.e. metallurgy, machining tolerances, & many other possible variables.

This is 100% speculative as there's no way to know until a decade has passed. If I had to choose, I would prefer a relatively large-displacement 230HP V6 that routinely goes to 350-400K miles over a 275HP small-displacement I4 that tends to only makes it to around 225-250K miles. Time will tell.

 

Listen, I get that, and plenty of other people have brought that point up, along with the dozens of other things that Toyota got wrong with this new truck. The '24 certainly isn't perfect, and it's surely going to have teething issue, but the massive amounts of copium being huffed here at Tacoma World since the '24 released has got to be setting some kind of record.

 

Going by this logic the 4 banger in the gen 2/3 shouldn't last as long as the V6. It takes the same amount of power to move either truck so the 4 is always working harder to produce that power. So it has more heat & stress the entire time. Which is widely considered to be more reliable?

 

Car Care Nit is one of the best automotive YouTube channels out there. The dude knows his stuff.

 

Do you need some one to pat you on the back and tell you your truck is awesome?

 

But you like this???? HAHA!!!

 

Nothing removing a few bolts wont fix. It remeinds me of:

 

I’m not understanding the goldfish bowl on wheels comments. Does anyone else get this?

 

Yes, that lower .. air dam? .. is 90% of the problem with the 2024 look. Luckily it is easily unbolted & removed.

My guesses as to why it's there are 2 fold:

1) Sort of a "cow-catcher" or "kid-pusher", to help prevent kids/pets/small people from going under the vehicle in low-speed pedestrian impacts.

2) Also doubles as an air dam to help shape flow around the outside of the vehicle, rather than under it. Not an aero expert by any means, but I've read somewhere that high-riding pickup trucks have considerable drag caused by the large air gap and high turbulence of air rushing over the rough underbody surfaces & components. That's also why you sometimes see those big, long, low side-mounted angled fiberglass-sheet skirts on the trailers of some tractor-trailer rigs. Air flow shapers.

 

I think what bro was trying to suggest is that the 2nd gens with their (comparatively) rounded, smoothed lines look unfashionably soft & squishy compared to the updated 4th gen styling.

That's why I had to put up a fake Million Dollar Baby womens-MMA fighter to come back at him