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Rides like a chuck wagon

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by groran, Mar 7, 2024.

  1. Mar 8, 2024 at 3:09 PM
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    groran

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    here are some pics. Looks like blocks on rear

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  2. Mar 8, 2024 at 3:17 PM
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    Nice pics!

    The front coil-over setup looks... more or less normal.. I think ?

    The 3" blocks on rear are pretty suspicious.

    I guess the next step would be to determine whether the rear shock absorbers are "stock length" or if they have been changed to "long travel." If there are any model numbers visible either on the labels or engraved somewhere on the rear shock-absorber tube/body, try to find them (remove dirt, pull the rubber accordion boots up, etc.) & photograph or just post here what model they are.

    If they are stock length shocks, they are being badly over-extended by the 3" blocks, severely limiting normal down-travel & causing a buck-board ride. If they are extended-length it might not be as bad.

    Separately from the shock length there is also the matter of what condition both the front & rear shocks are in, i.e. if they are old & bombed out (soft/bouncy,) then they need replacing, separately from anything to do with the length of the rear shocks & the fact that there are big spacer blocks in there.
     
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  3. Mar 8, 2024 at 3:20 PM
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    Rear leaf springs are broken.

    Lift springs on 5100 shocks in the front ride rigid. I'd replace them with a stock set if possible, usually people sell them locally from new trucks.

    I'd start with rear leaf springs asap. Remove block, find a lift pack or get a standard pack and only use a 1" block. The 5100's can handle the lift, but stick to 1" if you want the height.
     
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  5. Mar 8, 2024 at 3:22 PM
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    I didn't even notice that. If that's correct that's def. very bad & they need replacing. I wonder if it could just be camera angle/lighting making that area look missing.
     
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    I'm a tech, its broken and the leaf is hanging in loosely on the rear end, it needs to be removed.

    They are famous for coming loose and cutting brake hoses or jamming in fuel tanks.

    It might qualify for the leaf spring campaign still. If you want to message me the VIN I can check it for you.
     
  7. Mar 8, 2024 at 3:26 PM
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    The Eibach front coils might be the wrong spring rate, which can cause a rough front end ride.
    I'd ditch the blocks in the rear. The leaf springs look "fairly used". Additionally, it appears the large leafs are being "carried" by one, very thick, overload spring. Since it doesn't appear to be a very well designed progressive rate spring pack, you might consider looking into a leaf pack (soft, progressive) that is rated for your use.

    Cheers
     
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  8. Mar 8, 2024 at 3:26 PM
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    Inyo_man Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

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    Nice catch on the broken leaf!
     
  9. Mar 8, 2024 at 3:27 PM
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    +1, another good eye, yes, on a second look the Eibach coil springs on the front end look pretty thick & therefore probably too stiff, overkill for a stock-weight truck, causing the front end to also ride rough.
     
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  10. Mar 8, 2024 at 3:34 PM
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    Aw man yall can't begin to imagine how much I appreciate you guys, thanks
     
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    Yea, replace errythang. Those rear leafs are shot....probably not what ya wanna hear. :censored::spending:
     
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    check if that inner cv boot is torn...
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    Will the one-inch block affect ride quality? When you say standard pack, what does that mean? Sorry I don't know the lingo, thanks
     
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    I love it when someone comes on here for help, and they get asked for more details, and they actually provide the details, then receive the help they needed.
     
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    "Standard pack" means the default stock original Tacoma leaf springs. A "lift pack" would be an aftermarket leaf spring made by an outside company like ICON or Deaver that is designed to provide more lift than the stock/standard leaf springs.

    If you really want or feel you need lift (above stock height) on the rear of the truck, the proper way to do it is to remove any blocks/spacers, and install an after-market leaf spring that is made with extra "curve" in it which lifts the rear of the truck.

    For example, my truck has Deaver™ U402 rear leaf springs which are "more curvy" than stock leaf springs, which sets the rear of the truck a full 2" higher than stock, without needing any spacer blocks between the leaf springs & the rear axle.

    If you have the $$ you may be best-served to go to a local mechanic or suspension shop and tell them you want to replace the rear leaf springs, remove the blocks, and if the rear shocks are shot (done, worn out) replace those also.

    Once that is done you will immediately feel an improvement in ride quality, after which you can move on to deciding what to do about the front coil-overs.
     
  17. Mar 8, 2024 at 5:13 PM
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    No open recalls.

    A standard pack means replace the leaf springs with an OEM equivalent, so from a dealer, part store or spring manufacturer.

    https://www.denverspringandsuspension.com/ They look like they might make Tacoma leaf springs (support local!)
     
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    Going to replace BOTH leaf packs even though the other side may be ok. I figure it must have put stress on the good side, just to be sure. I'll probably have to go to stock tires too right? I have 285/70 on there now.
     
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    I have a good friend who is a mechanic and knows SOME about suspension and can change all the components but may not be an expert like you guys. Just needs guidance on what to replace and he can twist the wrench.
     
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    1 inch blocks should not affect ride quality but do increase wear on your leaf springs (hence your broken spring)
    I would recommend the Old Man Emu Dakar medium duty leaf springs to replace your clapped out springs. Theyre tried and true Australian brand
     
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