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Tacoma J-arm kit & swingset steering

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by 906taco, Mar 12, 2024.

  1. Mar 12, 2024 at 11:53 PM
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    WormSquirts

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    would like to see where this goes. you definitely have the skills! what would your goals with the kit be as far as travel and width? what hubs and cv's?
     
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  2. Mar 13, 2024 at 2:31 AM
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    Quixotic is 2wd….. We’re gonna keep all 4 spinning.
     
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  3. Mar 13, 2024 at 2:33 AM
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    Curious why it wouldn’t make sense to have a big secondary? Most of these trucks are outweighing some of the TT’s. Or are you saying A dual rate wouldn’t make sense with the big secondary?
     
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  4. Mar 13, 2024 at 2:36 AM
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    That’s the feedback I’m looking for. Right now exploring options for hubs. D44 is an option but comes at a cost. 17+ is achievable, not gonna spit numbers until one is actually on a truck. I refuse to be one of those inflators. Ideally 4.5” or less.
     
  5. Mar 13, 2024 at 5:59 AM
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    I was saying a 10” coilover wouldn’t be ideal if you’re trying to go to the next level with big shocks.
     
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    What do you think you can you get travel wise with 4 wheel drive?
    Also wondering what would be required to bump up top. Is just a cross brace for your new towers enough?
     
  7. Mar 13, 2024 at 7:42 AM
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    Correct. Which is why the topic of 12” shocks is present.
    17+ is doable depending on how much work you want to do. The ultimate option is an engine cage. However, a cross brace would be sufficient.
     
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  8. Mar 13, 2024 at 7:46 AM
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    I’ve bolted some stuff to it *lists cool stuff here*
    Frame strengthening? Correct me if I’m wrong but the mounting point of control arms in front of coil over is going to create much more stress on frame/mounts..
     
  9. Mar 13, 2024 at 7:58 AM
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    Frame would 100% be strengthened. And that would be part of the kit
     
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  10. Mar 13, 2024 at 10:27 AM
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    i'm just not sure how much travel you can get with plunge on droop. obviously theres only so high you can go before getting the frame just too low to the ground, but due to the mis alignment in the diff with the upper and lower mounts my issue i saw was i couldn't get much more droop before the axles would drop out of the inner 934's while being almost bottomed out in the 934 on bump. i'm very curious how solo has solved this issue since i believe they claim 18 or so with there xlt kit.
     
  11. Mar 13, 2024 at 10:29 AM
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    smashed this, broke that, covered it up with tape and paint
    They need to be rebuilt often on the xlt kit
    That’s what past owners have had to do
    And even then, heavy use still resulted in some sort of axel boot failure
     
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    You gotta remember camber change through the range of motion will have a fair amount of impact on plunge as well.

    Also, look at some of the 934 stubs on the market. The flanges are pocketed vs a flat wall. This would allow for extra length on the shaft.

    Really though, our factory outers are a problem that needs addressing.
     
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    Let's keep this thread near the top.
     
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  14. Mar 13, 2024 at 12:49 PM
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    I’d love to start hearing some input from others. Even if this isn’t some revolutionary big number kit, it still has the benefit of a big ass shocks, bumping off of the UCA and being all around bad ass. Remember, it’s not always all about travel numbers.

    But seriously, what kind of hubs do you all want to see? D44? OEM? Other ideas?

    What are some other added benefits you would like to see come from something like this?

    Let’s make this a bad ass kit.
     
  15. Mar 13, 2024 at 1:22 PM
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    Wouldnt D44 allow use of manual hubs? To eliminate the ADD?
    I know when we did my inner fenders we looked at a cross over tube. With the 3.5 it would be pretty much a vertical to 90 across top of engine. Would have to cage to get better support for it really.
    AT vs MT there is a difference in placement of various components and how the inner fenders have stuff layed out. For relocation of equipment. Especially for the guys with the big ABS module on the passenger side.
    The longer shocks I like, because the use of a longer lighter rated spring should allow better control and ride? 12" might be a tight fit without engine caging?
    Downside of all this? Costs can get out of hand
     
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    If you’re running 12’s and especially with a fully built rig, you’ll run a cage with shock mounts like this on a 1st Gen with the solo kit and 12’s. 10’s would be better if you’re running smaller shocks and aren’t interested in making significant changes like relocating the booster for fitting 12’s which would be a pretty possible necessity.upload_2024-3-13_13-24-2.jpg
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    I’m probably not going to be rich enough to afford something like this, but I love the idea and would love to see it completed!
    As far as travel goes how do you plan on dealing with the cv axle and the additional travel?
     
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    This kit is not and never has been a thought for a “bolt on” idea. This is gonna be for the people that have the ability or someone with the ability to make it happen. Also, can say, booster relocation is not a thing.

    But there will be options for a shock tower for 10” shocks.
     
  19. Mar 13, 2024 at 3:29 PM
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    Talk Camber curve and body roll.. correct me if I’m wrong again but you are changing pivot point of UCA thus changing amount of body roll transferred to wheels?
     
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    That’s all going to depend on how your shocks are setup. It’s going to perform like an off-road truck should.
     

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