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Tacoma J-arm kit & swingset steering

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by 906taco, Mar 12, 2024.

  1. Mar 14, 2024 at 4:13 AM
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    906taco

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    Monster downfall of that is you’re now running a 100% aftermarket part. You won’t be finding one in a parts store if you have a failure on the trail. One could replace the OE bearing 5 times on each side and still be cheaper.

    I just haven’t read many stories about factory hubs consistently failing.

    It used to be a downfall that you had to press them, but the aftermarket world now offers a full assembly in the event of a trail failure.

    That dana 60 hub is also recessed 1.5”. Which is now moving your outer cv inboard. Which means you just took a big fat L on CV angles.
     
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  2. Mar 14, 2024 at 6:59 AM
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    Okay, fair point.
     
  3. Mar 14, 2024 at 8:56 AM
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    It's just the hub itself that's aftermarket. Sure you have to press a new bearing on, but that's not that big of a deal imo, but I also understand not everybody has a press. Any shop can do it though.

    I go through wheel bearings fairly consistently around once a year, and so do a lot of the guys up here that wheel their trucks consistently. I torque my wheels with a torque wrench every time they go on, but I still had all my lugs shear off once as well. That said, whatever hub I end up with will be drilled for 5/8" lugs anyway, so my hub will already be aftermarket.

    I really like the option of a locking hub, and I don't think breaking a warn d60 hub will be an issue.

    Not super sure what you mean by recessed? Like that it has to go into the spindle that 1.06"? I guess you do lose a little there, hadn't really thought about that much.
     
  4. Mar 14, 2024 at 9:00 AM
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    I can tell you from experience that hub likely won’t press into a new bearing, much like the hubs from an aftermarket taco bearing assembly won’t press in an OEM bearing. Completely different design 9/10 times. Also, it’s 1.4375” not 1.06. And that’s a lot.
     
  5. Mar 14, 2024 at 9:13 AM
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    Misread the 7/16 as 1/16

    Trailgear is usually pretty good about being oe compatible with stuff like that, but I don't know 100%
     
  6. Mar 14, 2024 at 9:20 AM
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    Either way, it’s going to be a hassle. The only hurdle with OE hubs and 5/8 studs is the sudden downsize of studs on a new one. But that’s an easy hurdle to jump without even touching a drill.
     
  7. Mar 14, 2024 at 1:50 PM
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    Some of the final pieces are arriving for the swingset! Charlie at PSS is awesome to work with.

    IMG_0015.jpg
     
  8. Mar 14, 2024 at 5:16 PM
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    If you’re interested in D60’s and want to look into other options than unit bearings for the rear, check out the link I posted for Solid Axle Industries - they have 6x5.5 kits and don’t need a press to change bearings.
     
  9. Mar 14, 2024 at 5:26 PM
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    I did check that link out, and it's a good option too, but I really like unit bearings. I don't have a problem with pressing them personally. But honestly I'm not decided on hubs either yet. I was pretty stoked on the idea of manual hubs because I won't have ADD so it's nice to not be spinning the whole front drive train.
     
  10. Mar 14, 2024 at 5:43 PM
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    I can’t speak for 60’s but people beat on xlt kits with the 44’s on 35/37’s and they hold up. Nothing wrong with them as an option. However going up to a 39/40 on anything other than a 60 or 2.5ish race hub (only 2wd usually or just a drive plate for awd) may not be a good idea.

    Having a press makes all things good. I have hand tool only environments I will have the truck in and kind of luckily ended up with parts that don’t need any press for normal maintenance - going from a 1st Gen / 3rd Gen t4r where all wheel bearings need in depth press work, it was a big win for avoiding all that.
     
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    I have a small bottle jack press as well as a 45t air over hydraulic press which is very sweet. Scored it on FB marketplace for a great deal.

    I'll be running 39s on my truck, with room for 40s. I am tempted to just do spidertrax hubs but they are expensive
     
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    Bumping this back to the top! Need more interest to make this happen!
     
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    What’s the saying? Build it and they will come! I know it’s easier said than done, but if I’ve learned anything a lot of people are visual learners and fomo usually gets the best of people :thumbsup:
     
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    May be the case. But its not a cheap undertaking on something like this. Especially considering it will be a fully engineered kit.
     
  15. Mar 18, 2024 at 9:03 AM
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    I’ve bolted some stuff to it *lists cool stuff here*
    not trying to be a downer nor is this like directed at your craftsmanship or anything like that but I guess the idea? And have you kind of killed this yourself??

    Are the guys building cages and tubular frame trucks interesting in purchasing kits or like yourself, end up fabricating the truck, like is this really a market??

    Again I’m for what you are doing and think you are very talented, wish I could do the things you are doing.. I watch a guy that builds a Baja truck on a crossfire table. Badassss…
     
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    Just stumbled across this build...this is slick. Love the lighting set up.
     
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  17. Mar 18, 2024 at 9:16 AM
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    There’s always a market for kits. Even for full on chassis trucks. You can quite literally buy a trophy truck bulkhead and arms if you’re down to build the chassis. So yes, there is a market for it. Main question is how limited.
     
  18. Mar 18, 2024 at 9:26 AM
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    I’ve bolted some stuff to it *lists cool stuff here*
    hence why you are trying to feel out potentially buyers, I totally get it! Like I said not critiquing, I suppose if people out there spend that kinda money on kits like you are mentioning than it isn’t so far fetched.. thanks, I’m just trying to learn, it’s all very cool! :popcorn:
     
  19. Mar 18, 2024 at 11:38 AM
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    At the end of the day, I'm still building a kit. But it may be the difference between being obtainable for most and being out of the realm for most. If not enough interest is shown, its just going to be something off the wall.
     
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  20. Mar 18, 2024 at 1:25 PM
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    smashed this, broke that, covered it up with tape and paint
    I’m gonna go ahead and say
    Build it off the wall.
    I wanna see you do it for 1
    Secondly
    Tire kickers will delay the shit out of your project
    The real interested party won’t mind the cost

    case and point is how long JD fabs kits took to gain popularity
     

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