Manual transmission Fan Club and BS thread (All Generations Welcome)

I think i got some domestic results by searching for 08885-81007

Doesn’t say GL-4 on the side, but some places say it is ..?

 

It's GL4 but it's not 75W90, it's 75W (LV), similar to the stock t-case fluid (LF).

 

just when i thought i found an answer

also
https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/TxZPNRY9Q63LG

i bet a dealer parts/service person could look it up, or maybe they just would use GL-5 if you don’t know these things …

 

Yes the pouch deal. Much cleaner and easier. First time I used one was with Amsoil.

If I didn't work at a dealership and have access to cheap bulk fluids, I would use the Amsoil stuff exclusively. That being said.... My dealership sells Toyota fluid. But for the prices they want, you're better off buying something like Amsoil through @Pablo8 's links

 

I know a lot of people here don't like the accumulator and I guess it was a big enough complaint they decided to not include it in the 4th Gens. Thought that was interesting!

(I can't find the timestamp anymore, but the chief engineer mentioned it in this video. edit: Found it - they start asking him about MT stuff just after 11min mark, and specifically he mentions the accumulator just after 14min mark)

 

Maybe I should just trade for a 4th gen instead of installing the accumulator delete disk that's been sitting in my garage for a year

 

I can't argue with that logic

 

Anyone with a 3rd Gen have a tune? I have the Peddle Commander and it helps with the lag in second gear, but wondering if it could be better with a tune. I've read about how much the tunes help the automatics with shift points, but haven't heard much from my manual transmission people.

 

Pedal commander is just a throttle dump.

What I've noticed with the tune (KDMaxx 10.0 in my case)

Greatly reduced rev hang, helps with shifting
No Atkinson cycle in the engine, runs cleaner and a lot less valve ticking
Throttle maps/response is much smoother and more predictable
Slight power gains with the engine not focused on "efficiency "

Been tuned for 70,000, mi and nearly 5 years (upgrading tunes along the way)

I think when the tuning first got underway the manual tunes were a lot less noticeable. However, with the current iterations of the top end tunes, it's definitely worth it on the manuals. If you also haven't already done the clutch accumulator delete, highly recommend that.

 

Very good information! Thank you. I have not done the accumulator delete, how involved is it? I am mechanically inclined, but at the same time I don't want to f@$k up my truck. I was thinking about having the dealer look at my squeaky clutch but I need to remove my Peddle Commander first.

 

I've had my MT tune since 2019. 100% awesome.

If you don't have a tune, get a tune. Period.

 

I've driven Tony's truck and while it felt like it had a bit more meat in 2nd, it wasn't night and day. The tire size difference and AC/DC plus two dudes vs me solo all possibly played some role. What I read about the tunes, always a WIP, makes me less enthusiastic to try b/c just keeping RPM's high seems to be the easiest way to reduce the sadpanda/notorque experience.

 

I've tried a bunch of tunes and haven't found any of them to help the lack of torque very much. That's not to blame the tunes...I think there is simply not much editing to the tune that can be done, and I think the computer has safeguards implemented that can't be bypassed with tunes in order to protect the motor against lugging at low rpm. I have found the tunes boost things a little bit, not a lot. However, they do adjust the throttle senstivity and response quite a bit, which definitely gives a perceived feeling of boosted torque...until you start to use the gas pedal more and don't get anything additional in return. My happy medium for tuning has been a stock tune with the redline rpm edited to 6800 instead of 6200, combined with premium fuel.

However, being regeared affect my opinion on things as well. I enjoyed the tune when I had stock gears. The tunes did make the lower gears harder to control with the more sensitive throttle, whereas its very easy with the stock calibration so that's partly why I've gone back to stock.

 

Super easy. Heat shield is harder than the actual adm. Do recommend removing pedal commander, as a lot of dealer techs spend unpaid time removing 3rd party accessories to even begin diag/repair, no need to give them any ammo to be annoyed with

These engines do love their high rpm lol

Premium fuel won't help these engines (if it's ethanol free, that's a bonus however) but the tubes do have octane learning.

Also

Tunes can get set for certain gear sets. I've found this is paramount for the manuals. I do agree that while it's not night and day, It does help.

 

I am under the impression that the stock file has octane learning in it.

All of my tunes have been set for the gear set as well, though I don't think that actually matters on a manual. I'm curious what made you think otherwise? I ran the stock file from the stock folder with my gears and I don't find the performance to be any different than if that is edited.

 

23’ Pro Manual. Previous 16’ auto - not a huge fan. OTT TUNED and it really performs nice. My wife loves manuals as well. She had 06’ Barcelona Red. Should have kept it…

 

For me those tunes and mods like the manifold spacer plates just aren’t worth it when I can do exactly what you said, keep the RPMs high.

I feel like more people would enjoy the Tacoma if they just met it where it’s at instead of trying to turn the motor into something it isn’t.

It’s a pretty common thing in this community for people to spend hours trying to convince people they can feel a 5hp difference, but that’s a imperceptible for everyone whose name isn’t something like Max Verstappen. I’d love to see a double blind study on people driving cars with or without tuned and see where the results end up.

CDV deletes I wholeheartedly understand and get though, carry on with those.

 

There is more torque no question. Hills I once had to downshift for now I don’t. That is my F1 analogy to a Tacoma.

 

No idea on the new tunes, but the old OVT the torque is noticeably better. This was the MT pulling tune or whatever they called it in 2019. Not the first version. Anyone remember that? I'm almost 66, wife says I forget stuff.................sometimes!

 

I had one of the earliest ones and it went from me hating first and second gear to actually pulling with the truck. I know some people don't notice but it's also easy to get used to how your truck drives now compared to how it was. I also had the benefit of being a Toyota Tech so driving other people's vehicles all the time and then getting back into mind... Was a nice change.