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Overland Torque Tune (OTT) by Overland Tailor

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by JustDSM, Mar 20, 2022.

  1. Mar 7, 2024 at 2:51 PM
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    You really need to be able look at your timing advance and knock learn correct, but in my experience, particularly in hot weather, the truck responds up to about 96 octane. Maybe even a little more depending on the setup. I’m running E25, which is about 96 octane.

    Edit: I also closely monitors timing, knock, knock learn correct, HPFP, and my trims. If you don’t stick with 93.
     
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  2. Mar 7, 2024 at 3:06 PM
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    As mentioned, there is some additional headroom built into our files to take advantage of a higher octane fuel than 91/93oct pump fuel. Please be mindful of leaded fuels and anything with a Stoich point that significantly differs from 14.6:1
     
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  3. Mar 7, 2024 at 3:23 PM
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    In that case it sounds like something I don't want to experiment with as I don't have a way of viewing that.

    I'll keep that under advisement. Maybe someone who's used this product will chime in.

    Thanks for all replies.
     
  4. Mar 10, 2024 at 3:17 PM
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    OTT is killing it on the FB groups. I see a lot of questions pop up about the best tunes and if it’s worth it. I let them know how it’s the best mod available. Lots of people getting tuned. Glad you guys are doing well!
     
  5. Mar 10, 2024 at 6:13 PM
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    Appreciate the continued support!
     
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  6. Mar 13, 2024 at 10:39 AM
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    Time to try out a few tanks of 93!
     
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  7. Mar 13, 2024 at 11:06 AM
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    It will adjust pretty quick. You should notice the difference within 1/3 of the tank or so.
     
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  8. Mar 16, 2024 at 7:35 PM
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    OTT Tune Review/Feedback:

    I just got my 2021 TRD Sport tuned this week - V6, automatic, stock wheel/tire size, and stock gear ratio.

    Medium/Spicy:
    I started out with Medium/Spicy and it was immediately way too much throttle response too soon. Even after getting used to it for a day, Medium was too instant and jerky from a stop. I'm assuming the torque is affected (increased a bit), as suggested, because it's much easier to break the tires from a stop - even accidentally while getting used to the throttle position.

    Lite/Mild:
    I went back and down-tuned to Lite/Mild and this was PERFECT. The Lite throttle response is similar to stock, but the shifting is A LOT smoother and more linear. The shift points are at higher RPM, but the throttle is a lot more precise and not jerky or overwhelming from a dead stop. You're easily able to keep the RPMs low and the gas mileage high, but not deal with gear hunting on the highway. So perfect.

    The Mild throttle response feels a little more aggressive than stock, but is still manageable for daily driving and not jerky from a stop if you're used to it. If someone didn't want as much of a throttle delay or range throughout the gas peddle, perhaps they'd favor this for daily and prefer the Mild/Medium tune.

    Driving Conditions & Considerations:
    For me, my truck is my daily driver. I do a lot of snowboarding (winter/snow driving) and occasional moderate off-roading in the Las Vegas desert with my installed skids and rock sliders. For all of these situations I think the Lite/Mild tune is ideal so you're not spinning your wheels at stoplights, on slick roads, or digging stuck tires further down into the dirt.

    What I Would Change:
    Mild is mapped to the ECT button and the throttle feels slightly more aggressive than stock, but I can't really think of a situation where I wouldn't want to step it up a little more if I need a temporary boost. I think eventually I would want the ECT to be mapped to Medium or Spicy so there's more of a difference and reason to switch - so perhaps a Lite/Medium or Lite/Spicy tune would make the most sense in my mind.

    Obviously there are many custom offerings and combinations you can do beyond the basic maps.

    Final Thoughts:
    I absolutely love the Light/Mild tune over stock. The throttle response/travel/precision is similar in Light, but in a good way - meanwhile, the shift points and RPM are way better. It truly is a night and day difference, even with Lite/Mild. No more highway gear hunting, no more random over-reving, no more early shifts. The driveability is greatly improved.

    I drive fast and was worried Light/Mild may not be "enough" for me. It's just fine. The biggest difference I personally noticed between Light, Mild, Medium, and Spicy was just how quick/jumpy/sporty the throttle was.

    Just my review and thoughts after having stock tune, Medium/Spicy, and ultimately settling on Lite/Mild all inside of a week for the sake of comparison.

    Great company and tuning experience as well.

    Money well spent!
     
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  9. Mar 16, 2024 at 7:44 PM
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    Mild Drive, Spicy ECT is what I got...thanks to my Tuner Allan in NJ.
     
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  10. Mar 16, 2024 at 7:52 PM
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    That sounds like a good combo and kind of what I was thinking with the "Lite/Medium" or "Lite/Spicy" above - a bit more of a noticeable jump when you're looking for the sportier throttle.

    I can't imagine daily driving Medium, Spicy, or Super Spicy. Maybe 18-year-old me would've enjoyed it.
     
  11. Mar 16, 2024 at 7:55 PM
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    I'm 57 and try to utilize as much as possible. lol
     
  12. Mar 16, 2024 at 8:03 PM
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    Allan Beltran with "Southern Nevada Offroad Tuning" is the current Las Vegas, NV (and surrounding area) tuner for OTT. He has a small garage near the airport and was very down to earth, easy to work with, and accommodating.

    His contact information is on the OTT site:
    https://overlandtailor.com/retailer-locations

    I shot him an email and he responded right away. I sent him my vehicle information and then we spoke on the phone before scheduling an appointment time.

    Allan did a good job and helped me get my tune dialed in after I wanted to make some follow-up adjustments. Great customer service and representation of the OTT brand.
     
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  13. Mar 22, 2024 at 4:20 AM
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    I'm getting my '21 OR tuned tomorrow and had the opportunity to speak with the tuner when I scheduled the appointment. He seems like a great guy and will allow me to test the different levels and adjust as necessary.

    From your write up, I'm initially thinking about the lite/medium tune, as it would be nice to have a pretty significant difference between the two, but for everyday driving, I just want quicker throttle response and to finally be rid of the gear hunting. I have a couple questions...

    When deciding on the levels to be set, how would you recommend I start? Go with the lite/medium first, or start lite/mild to see if that's enough? Frankly, I'd love to experience them all the way up to super spicy, or whatever it is, but don't want to waste the tuner's time, either.

    More importantly, what do you recommend for how to test drive the different levels? Do you have any tips on that?

    TIA
     
  14. Mar 22, 2024 at 7:58 AM
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    My recommendation is not to worry about what others "like" or what the "spice" level is, but instead to explore our different offerings and select what suits you the best.

    :p

    Drive them in as varied conditions as possible to truly feel and experience the offering in as diverse conditions as possible. Simply driving around the block is not what I would encourage as a "test drive." You want to get a sense of what it will be like to live with daily. Those that don't take the time to test the offerings properly are generally the ones we have to re-service with a retune later. I'd love to save you (and our guys) the trouble of coming back - though you are always welcome should you need an adjustment. We'd prefer to get it right for you the first time!
     
  15. Mar 22, 2024 at 8:17 AM
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    Thanks for the response.

    I guess my question wasn't necessarily geared toward what other people like, but rather if I think I'm leaning toward lite/medium (without any context, other than others' opinions) should that be the first tune to test drive, or should I start lite/mild and work up? The tuner is offering to adjust to get it right the first time, based on my test drives.

    I think I may go in just expecting to try two different tunes, so I can experience lite, mild, and medium and then make the determination from there.
     
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    Gotcha!

    You can, by all means, request to start where your research has led you; that's perfectly fine. Then, based on your input, we can make adjustments from there. If you're a light-footed driver, Lite-Mild might be good for you. It's impossible to say; the diverse preferences of individual tastes are one of the reasons we elected to have a broader range of offerings as standard.

    For what it may be worth, Mild-Medium is probably our most popular offering for the 3G 3.5L
     
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    I'm in the lite/med boat, best of both when you need them.
     
  18. Mar 22, 2024 at 11:42 AM
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    I wrote that up (and a more detailed review thread) so people can have a better idea for what THEIR preference will be based my best attempts to describe the throttle response of the tune settings. When I was recently in your shoes, I wished OTT provided some sort of literature or infographic better comparing the throttle settings as a starting point.

    I like the idea of Lite/Medium like you said to have that greater difference. I also like the idea of it as a starting point for testing/comparison - maybe you'll find Lite isn't enough response for you and Medium is too jumpy, in which case you'll know to try Mild next.

    If you don't like it or you want to make sure, test out a few. You have to live with it, I would certainly make sure it's what I want.

    Re: For how to test drive the different levels - The differences are VERY obvious almost immediately. You'll know right away if you like your throttle setting or not. Lol. You'll also quickly notice the shift points are different. A drive around the block was enough for me to notice the jerky throttle was going to be way too much for me to deal with, but maybe spend a few minutes in traffic (stop and go) messing around and a few minutes on the highway to get a feel.

    I took it home for the day to try to "adjust" and "get used to it" before bringing it back to get the throttle tuned down. Trust your instincts. You know what you like.
     
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    We'll work on that ;)
     
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    I truly think that would help future customers a lot and potentially prevent some re-tunes. As you can see, it's a minor crisis trying to decide where to start. Lol.

    It would be more reassuring and obviously be much more accurate of a description in the tune differences coming from OTT directly. (As opposed to random people like myself trying their best to subjectively describe how it felt for others.)
     
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