2019 or a 2015

What problems do the 2019 have. I want the latest pre covid if i go third gen. Or a 2015 the better choice. 4x4 prefer manual tranny but likely wont find one. Auto likely

 

There was no difference with the truck quality from 19-23. Starting in ‘20 they got a few more options as standard. If you want a manual you’ll want to include those extra four years of production to make finding one easier.

 

Why pre-Covid? I own a 2019 and lick the steering wheel all the time….

 

Quality control went down the toilet. On lots of things. Everyone knows that

 

Not sure what Toyota did, but Honda had office workers on the assembly line during Covid.

https://www.motor1.com/news/436532/honda-requiring-office-workers-build-cars/

 

I dunno, my 2020 has been awesome. Really appreciated the 2020 refresh. Especially the drivers power adjustable seat.

 

Meh I had a 2010 and now an 18. They bolth have pros and cons. Get a tune it fixes the majority of the complaints regarding the trans. The motor has plenty of pep you just have to dig into the upper rpm range for it.
So I personally don't put one above the other. You will likely enjoy either one op.

 

Get whatever’s gonna make you happy. If you want my opinion….I’d get a 2023.

 

I have a 19 and no issues to date . I had a few recall /TSB
Fuel pump ( never had an issue but had it done)
Rear top brake light ( they modified , never had an issue )
Ecu up date ( got it done , just to do it , never really thought it was bad before )
Other than maintenance nothing else

 

My 2020 is pre-covid. Not sure if that matters.
But, there was a refresh in 2020 that affected drivability, specifically shift points in the automatics.
Also, early 2020s still have the external transmission cooler.

My advise is get a 2020 or later.

 

The 15's engine is better paired with the transmission for a truck[let] then the 19's engine/transmission. If you can't pull the higher gearing in a vehicle in normal driving, it's useless.

The 3.5 wasn't a ''bad'' engine, [though it did have some oiling issues at angles] but it was a poor match with the auto transmission they used due to gearing.

 

My 2013 is nice & I love it. Have you test drove both generations? That’s where you’ll know which one you want

 

There was certainly a lot more strain put on quality processes because of all the disruptions caused by COVID, no question. The company I work for was no exception.
Were Toyota's processes robust enough in the US and Mexico to weather those years without issues spiking?

 

When making a critical decision, it’s best to carefully weigh the pros and cons, as they relate to your personal needs. For instance, advantages of buying the 2015 would include:

A.) You can troll the Gen3 owners forum for many, many years to come.

B.) And, that’s about it.

Good luck.

 

I read some comments before the 2019 cab would eventually rattle. I live and drive alot of gravel roads so this is a concern for me. Anyone confirm this with the idea you spend a fair amount of time off pavement?

 

I’ve had both…

I like the look of the 3rd Gen, inside and out…that being said, the 2nd Gen seems more like a Tacoma should be.

If my 2013 was an Off Road, I would take it back in a heartbeat.

 

You just wanted a Spanking…