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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Apr 2, 2024 at 8:45 AM
    906taco

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    Interesting. Wonder why he never made mention of it when I had asked. I’ll have to keep it in mind. Probably going to the next stage pad/rotor this year
     
  2. Apr 2, 2024 at 8:46 AM
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    Lines don’t really make much difference lol. Not in comparison to the Powerbrake at least…. Powerbrake is stopping power like most haven’t ever experienced. Literal race car shit.
     
  3. Apr 2, 2024 at 8:50 AM
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    Stock brakes, stock lines, power brakes x-line come with braided lines, so we used those.
     
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  4. Apr 2, 2024 at 1:12 PM
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    One other question, You stated stock master. Was that electronic pump booster or vacuum booster? Or does it matter?
     
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    Adding the Wildwood 6 piston brakes last year was one of the best things I ever did. Those things just stop and it's saved me from a couple accidents where idiots decide they are going to stop on the freeway watching something lol
     
  6. Apr 2, 2024 at 11:16 PM
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    shouldn't matter, the booster just amplifies foot pressure on the same master cylinder.
     
  7. Apr 2, 2024 at 11:34 PM
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    both options stock have a different pedal feel. The truck in question being an off-road should have the electronic pump.
     
  8. Apr 3, 2024 at 1:35 AM
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    Won't effect what the caliper itself is doing though
     
  9. Apr 3, 2024 at 7:44 AM
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    Oh it 100% does.

    My truck is a booster truck

    Wife’s is electronic.

    Electronic hands down bites harder and faster in a stock v stock setting.

    I’d be willing to bet, the electronic sees higher pressure numbers at the caliper.
     
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  10. Apr 3, 2024 at 9:16 AM
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    I bet stopping distance is the same but the pedal feel is drastically different. @WormSquirts I have a dragy that measures 60-0 stopping distance in both time and distance. If you want to do one of these again lmk and I’ll ship it up to you guys to try out.
     
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    Would be interesting to test. I'm sure pedal feel is different, but the caliper sees pressure, regardless of where it comes from. No booster and a really strong leg would also accomplish the same thing. 100% of race cars are manual brakes with no boosters, strictly for the pedal feel, but you gotta push super hard.
     
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    That's super cool. I'd love to test a few different rotor/pad options against each other on stock calipers
     
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    My brakes suck since I did the pedders rear disc conversion and master cylinder. I hate it.
     
  14. Apr 4, 2024 at 8:19 AM
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    I've heard that a few times from people who did a disc conversion. Do you still have a booster and abs? What do you hate about it?
     
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    Booster is OEM, vacuum booster, and I still have ABS. The pedal is pretty firm, maybe not as firm as OEM but when I STAND on the brakes, the truck just doesn’t slow down very fast. Used to be faster. Also it engages ABS pretty quickly.
     
  16. Apr 4, 2024 at 8:41 AM
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    I wonder if a proportioning valve would help. Sounds like too much fluid is going to the rear. You should also pull the abs fuse and see how that changes it
     
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    Not really true. We have a 1,000hp street car that’s full manual brakes. Paired with a proper master and proper ratio pedal, input is similar to a booster setup.
     
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    Truthfully, I’d bet 1,000$ right now that the electric master shits all over a vacuum booster. Same input vs same input the electric is going to be higher pressure at the caliper.

    I can actually verify this once my truck is up and running as I have all of the pressure testing stuff.
     
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    The pedal in an F1 car has about 1" of stroke, and to hit 100% brake pressure takes around 350lb of force. I'm sure there are many different set ups depending on the race car, but most race cars have a very firm pedal
     
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    You have a built engine do you not? Cam etc? Cams are good at killing vacuum AKA reducing the effectiveness of a vacuum booster. It may be time to look into a vacuum pump or a proper manual brake system. Which I’m personally partial to.
     
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