Long Travel BS Thread

That's my dilemma from going spring under and switching my 12s to 14s. I just got 4x4 a couple months ago and I'm still having fun climbing rocks lol

 

Using a Hondo Garage mount for my iPad with Gaia. Have onX also but mostly Gaia. It’s an older wifi only ipad so had to get a separate gps puck. No complaints.

 

For sure. But sometimes you just need every god damn degree of departure angle you can get as you drag it up. I've already split a high clearance rear bumper in half from getting caught up on a rock and the DMZ shackles would have been toast before hand. Apparently Jesse and his guys had to weld an 8ft bar to the edge of the bumper and hang off it to bend it back enough to get the bedsides off.

IMO it's really only JDFab SUA, link it or stay SOA and do a relocation like Archive's if you spend a substantial amount of time in the rocks. I think 90% of people who rock crawl are probably better off staying SOA and it's really only the crazy few of us who want to try to send it fast in the whoops while keeping in the rocks that should consider something else.

I've also been known to try to drive the rocks like they're the desert so driver choices are a contributing factor for sure.

https://imgur.com/BNHyof2

 

Just 3 link if you like rocks...

 

Why not 4? Well and then relocate the gas tank and.. and..

 

For the gas tank. Exactly. No big snowball. It's the only other option when guys complain SUA inverted shackle is too low in the rear and apparently hit desert obstacles.

 

Not true -- the JDFab SUA doesn't hang too low, as discussed above.

Also, in my case, it isn't necessarily desert obstacles. It's that getting to a lot of the rocks in my area requires miles of whooped out dirt and being able to hit them with a little speed gets the fun started before you get to the rocks. Nothing serious. But the extra travel is nice.

 

Gonna be straight with you. I miss what my truck was at a nicely built mid travel. Thing could party hard.

 

What was your mid travel setup for the rear?

 

i just doubled checked my app and their website for all onx versions to see if i missed something. i’ve been using it for a couple of years. it says right on the home page of every version of the app that you have to download maps for offline use. so how exactly are you getting maps and full data with no signal ?

 

Too bad you have to wait 5 years to get one

 

…and all 1st Gen sua trucks with 62” leaf kits but with a direct negative critique of the JD Fab kit and a RS 3 link kit not costing much if any more than any SUA, I don’t see the point in other options for rock donkeys. However I’d say y’all haven’t really built a properly tuned SOA and that would probably be the best way to go for the application you just mentioned imo.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/3-link-tacoma-prerunner-build-taco_sos.654010/

 

Tim is the best. I now understand why people say DMZ has great customer service. Super polite and knows his shit (of course)

 

i'm in the middle of a 4 link. i had the same "ugh" feeling about ditching the stock tank at first, but it turns out its really not a lot of work, and after you drop the tank and chuck it into the garbage, the resulting room for activities may be one of the most freeing things i've ever seen.

 

I'd been through 4 iterations of mid travel and I just really couldn't get it dialed. I'm super happy with JD's 2.25" front-end and SUA rear, though. But that's probably a skill issue.

See above. I didn't consider selling my 3rd gen for a 1st gen but I did consider runnin' Chevy 63s. I was running the Archive shock relocation w/ their cross tube, u-bolt flip with 2.5x12 King's. It was perfectly capable but it wasn't very fun. I looked at a lot of 3 link kits and couldn't find any I felt didn't have some pretty massive compromises. We talked this out ad nauseam probably 50 pages back, though, specifically around the Martech kit.

 

You don’t have any of the problems that @906taco is having?

Martech is a crawler kit. Not a desert oriented rig.

 

No. I think if you look through the 800+ pages of the JDFab thread, @906taco might be the only one expressing those specific issues. I'm willing to believe he just parties harder than I do though because he knows his shit. But I haven't had any issues with leaf separation or wrap and definitely no issues with my driveshaft. A couple of us measured our wheelbases after he brought it up and haven't had that specific either issue.

My truck didn't have a lot of miles on it before it got chopped to bits, though, and I'm sure my frame looked a lot healthier than his when I started my journey. We all have fucked up chassis to various degrees and I'm sure that contributes.

And agree that Martec is a crawler kit but you were talkin' about setups for crawling. I agree a 3 link is distinctly superior for crawling and that a torsion rear setup is distinctly superior for desert. I just think that JDFab kit is a nice middle ground for those of us who are too stupid to commit way or the other.

 

Just can’t bear to read all of that - enough disciples from there were coming on here saying how the sua got 19” and DMZ, DK, etc. are inferior that it made my bs alarm go off too many times.

If you want performance in the whoops run away from anything with 63’s. For some reason people will spend $6k up front and then get those budget minded springs for some reason that have no useable up travel which was the whole point of long travel right up until it became a thing on glamping IG mobiles.

 

asked about swaybars a couple of weeks back, and wanted to thank @JTFisherman for the information leading to today's delivery.

 

Leaf springs are dumb when trying to go fast or rock crawl. Trust me, I know.