Overland Torque Tune (OTT) by Overland Tailor

The more aggressive settings just gives more throttle body input with less actual pedal movement from your foot. Example if you had your foot giving it the exact same pedal angle going down the road on lite vs say medium. The truck would have more throttle body input on medium for the exact same pedal input from your foot and so on. Too aggressive of a setting and the truck is jerky, i have a 2.7 so i run spicy which works the best. The truck is underpowered so it needs more throttle input than say the 3.5 to get up and moving. That is why the high setting works for me but would be too twitchy on the 3.5L, the more weight, bigger tires etc you add slowing the truck down is where the more aggressive settings help to remove the sluggish feeling.

 

Just took a 1400 mile round trip to visit some family NC-NY and back truck was getting some great mileage on OTT. Impressive for a heavy, lifted, re geared brick with the 2.Slow also had the bed packed with about 400lbs of stuff. Looking forward to the update to see if we can pick up a little power down low, @JustDSM i had a question. I run spicy which the truck loves shifts awesome, holds the gears very well but was curious if throttle could be slightly tweaked in 5th and 6th. The 4 banger is obviously a little slow so highway speeds is where the laggyness is felt the most, rolling hills on the highway the truck has no problem holding 6th or if its a big grade 5th. Where i think it could be better is i have to be pretty deep in the pedal/load to maintain speed but it holds the gear, would it be possible to just tweak 5th and 6th to make it slightly more aggressive so i would not have to be so deep into the pedal to get the same throttle input.

 

Yes sir! Email me the file you’re running and we’ll get some dialog started offline.

Justin

 

Has there been any updates to this yet? I know we're just entering Q2 but I think me and quite a few of us here are excited for this and you guys are so far the only ones even close to CARB certified.

 

Agree. I'd also like an update. Sure there are a bunch of CA folks ready to pull the trigger once CARB certification is received

 

I'm not even waiting for the certification, I just need to find time to drive out to Sacramento since that's the closest tuner to me

 

We should be VERY close at this point. CARB does not provide timelines or any information on the status other than when information or documentation is required for review. We've provided CARB with everything they requested. Given where we are in terms of correspondence I'm confident we're near the end of the tunnel.

 

I just had "Relentless Tuning" of Alabama flash my truck with OTT. I chose "lite/mild" and even "lite" is taking some time getting used to. I'm hoping I can re-learn my muscle memory, because you had to give it so much pedal with the stock tune. There is an "even lighter" setting that's not so documented that I might go to that if I don't smooth out my starts and low speed acceleration. I can't imagine how you "medium" or "spicy" folks could be managing it.

On the stock tune, my transmission would often shift 6 or 7 times just getting up to speed. Because it would dive to higher gears so fast, it would lug, I'd press it more, it'd downshift, and finally get up to speed. Absolutely maddening. I can't believe they thought this was fit to release to the public.

With OTT, it holds on to each gear a little bit longer. It'll still dive a little quick to higher gears, but now you can continue accelerating...it seems to be able to do so without downshifting. I read that the focus was more torque lower in the rev ranges, so maybe this is why.

I also feel like it's not downshifting on some of the hills I routinely take. It's able to do more in higher gears than before.

Overall it's a much better driving experience, and like others have said, one I would have expected from Toyota.

I have 36k miles on my truck, fwiw. The gentleman who owns Relentless Tuning answered all my questions and has been professional and responsive. We were done with the entire transaction in under 30 minutes.

My only reservation is the notion that "there are no free lunches" when it comes to tunes. And I've seen others express it and would like to hear more opinions. That is, typical "tunes" are looking to get more performance out of a vehicle, often impacting reliability and longevity. I don't get that vibe here, to me it drives like a "stock" truck should. Still, getting more torque out of it at lower RPMs....is that where we might "pay a price" in terms of longevity/reliability? I would like to hear more opinions on this. In my opinion, the truck is more composed now, and requires much less shifting, so I would think that would be a positive for the transmission.

 

We have a one step below Lite (Lite Minus) that's available. If you find Lite is still too much for your taste reach out to Jeff and he'll get you taken care of.

 

I say stick with it for a few weeks at least. A couple summers ago I ran spicy-race for a couple months. I don't know how I did it now. I went back to a somewhat custom tune made by Justin that is now lite-spicy with some added things done to it. I'm good now. I much prefer having control with the pedal compared to barely touch it and you're launching the truck from any speed that you are doing at the time. I'd stick with the lite-mild for a bit and I bet you get used to it and end up being happy with it. It's worth a shot, you can always go one step down if you want.

 

I may be defecting and want to go back to stock if I do and sell the truck (and then I'll be back with something else ). Is everything revolving around flashing back to the stock tunes A-OK good to go these days? IIRC I am 04C30 '22 MT6 if it matters.

 

Yep! No issues with the 04C30 going back to stock.

Sounds like you’ve got something fun brewing

 

Just curious...what would be the point of going back to stock if you're selling? Wouldn't the purchaser benefit from the tune? Is it a licensing re-capture thing?

 

It may get traded in, at which point I think everyone would probably just prefer it to be back to stock. Going to pull everything that isn’t on the window sticker basically, nothing will add value to it for a trade and helps that most if not everything will fit a 2G anyway..well, minus the tune.

 

Anyone have issue of when you're going downhill and your truck feels like it's moving faster than it is and you're prone to brake more. I get that I'm going downhill, but shouldn't the tune have downhill assist? The truck feels like it's in higher gears going downhill when I feel that it should be in lower gears to assist your driving. Correct me if I'm wrong because it felt better when I was previous on the med/spicy tune. This issue came about when I retuned to mild/spicy.

I also notice that my truck would be in wrong gear while going downhill to uphill. The truck would shift up to a higher gear towards the bottom of the hill and when it reaches the point to go uphill I applied more gas the truck would downshift right when it already shifts up one gear when it should stay in gear. The transition is not smooth. Before I didn't have this issue with med/spicy tune, I retuned to mild/spicy tune due to the fact that in 4hi the throttle was too sensitive and it will lurch forward. The mild tune fixed that issues, but now I have another issue with the mild/spicy tune.

Anyone else experience this as well? Fyi this is me going downhill on a 25mph road. I hope this can get fixed.

 

I'm in flat Delaware...only time I'm going downhill is when up north in Wilmington, DE visiting our daughter...and even then, those aren't San Francisco type hills. lol

Sorry to hear you're going through this...

 

It feels fine when I'm on spicy ect mode but mild regular doesn't feel right.

 

no. I have low 4.88 gears and manual. It engine brakes and goes in what gear I tell it to be in. Big heavy tires and armor that slow it down.

 

I assume you prefer the rpms to be higher when going downhill. In ECT mode the rpms are higher compared to normal mode. If that is your preference it’s best to reach out to your tuner and have the ECT shift pattern in normal mode.

 

Following up. I do experience "hard shifts" occasionally where it feels like it's held a gear too long and then "slams" into the next higher gear, more often than not under light throttle-then-more throttle. I don't know if I should be concerned about that or not. I don't recall feeling that before. It may still be me getting used to the throttle, because I think it's happening less frequently the more I drive it. It could also still be "relearning" because otherwise normally seems to be shifting smoothly while holding onto gears much longer than stock. Continue to be impressed that it doesn't downshift as often, and can pull better on slight inclines without hunting. The hunting and overall number of shifts has gone way town, as I think the transmission shifts linearly through the gears now when accelerating from a stop, instead of diving into higher gears so soon only to have to downshift again to get up to speed (that was the worst part of stock for me).