2024 TRD Pro order lead time?

Hi,

I was at the dealership today and it looks like I have decided on a Tacoma TRD Pro. I'd have to build one and then put a deposit, which is not a problem.

But the guy I'm working with at the dealership said if I want to get it within a reasonable time frame I should order a TRD Off-Road.

He said that the TRD Pros will take over a year for me to get them..

Is this true?

 

You don't order/build anything from Toyota. The deposit holds your place in line and when a truck becomes available they ask you if you want it.

If you're extremely picky in what you want (trim, color, packages) and it's not a common build then you do wait longer. I waited 9 months for my truck and passed on a few PROs until the right one came along.

 

About a month ago I inquired about ordering a black trd pro. Local dealer had no idea of eta, but was willing to take a deposit.
I'd imagine later this fall would be likely for an eta. Especially with all the production line hiccups lately.

 

That is because he knows how many are in line ahead of you. You can ask him to get an idea. Hint: There is a LOT more interest in the halo models than this forum and their wretched, click bait Youtuber heros lead you to believe. Also, based on previous gen, Pros are not high production, while the OR is the bread and butter. Depending on the source, Pros accounted for less than 2% of Tacos sold.

 

Just get an off road … more than likely u will end up changing suspension and so on .unless u want those stupid seats lol .

 

Don't know the OP.

Aftermarket mods means chasing aftermarket warranty, stock, and shops. Stock means Toyota parts and service and warranty in nearby city center. Not <your awesome, most favorite, with the coolest shit, shoot the shit dudes> shop located a state over.

The Pro brings the higher trade in. While your cool mods are cool in your mind, I don't want a used vehicle with someone else's definition of cool. Unless I can get it heavily discounted, cause I want to put my own mods on it anyway.

So, a little more to consider. Just my two cents.

 

Quite possibly. Is it a small dealer?

 

I dunno if I believe this. I've found several articles online that say different. And when I spoke with him he said it would be impossible to test-drive a Trailhunter or TRD Pro coz those are usually custom orders that come in and customers don't want someone else driving their vehicles. He said that they probably will not be getting any Trailhunters on the lot at all.

I'm not saying it's not the case, but every other company it seems you custom order them and they come just for you.

Yeah. I mean I wasn't really asking for an exact ETA, just like ... Am I gonna be waiting an extremely unreasonable amount of time.

What is a halo model? I would think that's probably because the pros are so expensive. Like if I were to plot sales on a normal deviation chart the Off-Roads would probably be in the middle, with the most expensive trims to the right getting less buys the more expensive they get and then the cheapest models on the left .. not sure the placement of each one.

I don't want the seats, well not for the reason that you're thinking. I love the interior though. And I have experience completely changing the interior of a car. It depends on the model of the car, but I've had some that require taking off the windshield, replacing the entire dash, etc.. WAAAAY more involved (and of course spending money along the way).. I would have to buy all the TRD Pro interior trim pieces, the steering wheel, the shifter, etc. etc.

I think the seats are cool if they do their job but that's not the reason why I want it. Mostly it's the interior, and the fact that I want to throw as little money as possible towards the truck after I buy it.

When I was shopping for my Gladiator I wanted a Mojave.. People said jsut get the Rubicon.. You can buy the shocks.. Turns out the shocks cost $5000-$6000. I don't want to spend that much money.. There's already a lot to get.. Racks, RTT etc.

Plus the TRD Offroad optioned the way I want is 59k. Might as well just get the Pro.

I do have to add though that I would be satisfied with the shocks on the Off-Road.. I've driven one. But I really want the interior of the TRD Pro. I can get the steering wheel and the shifter but entire interior wouldn't match. And like I said, I don't want to be fishing for parts to build what I could just buy and be done with it.

I love that first paragraph. LOL "Yeah mannnnn.. I bought my long range fuel tank from XY shop in New Mexico.. and now it's time to drive to Portland to get this custom fitted exhaust.. Then I'm gonna go to Colorado and get my blingy tent with 720 degree view of my surroundings."

I agree with all of this, and especially because I really the interior and people are like "Just buy the shocks" but that usually costs more than just buying the extra trim. When I was shopping for my Gladiator I did the math on a Sport S w/Max Tow Package ... Adding front/rear lockers, the suspension, the fender flares, the wheels and tires, and it ended up costing like $7000 more than what it would cost if I just bought the damn Rubicon. lol Now this was in 2019, when Rubicon was only $43k. But I didn't even include the trim pieces to get everything with the red stitching which included the dash.. so. Replacing dashes are not fun, I speak from experience.

I guess possibly. It's not huge. Does that affect it? I wanna be loyal to this guy but more important is to get the vehicle I want :/

 

I just could never with those terrible airfilled seats! No room in the back

 

The other thing about this that I wanted to say. Because of my negative equity he said the bank would only approve me for a vehicle that had max price of $61k.. And he said the lowest price vehicle I could get is 35k.. So I started asking him about like maybe a more economical cars...

And besides the main ones like Camry.. Everything I asked him about he said "Oh it's really hard to find one of those.. we hardly ever get them in."

He said this about Prius Prime, the GR Supra, Corolla Hybrid.. Nearly everything I asked him about.

If they hardly ever come on the lot.. How the hell do they sell them, if not by custom order?

 

Small dealers may only get one Pro allocation per year. If you can only get financing to a max of $61k, you might as well give up on the idea of a pro or Trailhunter. They aren’t going to sell you one for that.

 

most dealers will NOT let you put in an allocation reserve request. they just rather you get on a dealer hold list or buy from the lot.

if you want to see what a real allocation reserve request looks like, here is our 2022 tundra request put in may-2022 (we didnt actually get it until feb-2023.

edit: i blanked out certain portions of the print out in paint to keep the dealer out of toyota usa eyes

 

You have to keep in mind that Toyota is not like other manufactures. A chevy dealer buys direct from GM. A Toyota dealer has a middle man involved called the distributor. Every region has one and some are a lot worse than others. They run off a allocation system that based the future inventory off what the dealership previously sold. Smaller dealers will get less than larger dealers in terms of allocations as well as the Halo trims which are the Trail Hunter and the Pro. My dealer is the largest in TN and they only have 1 Pro and 1 Trail Hunter allocated so far. Allocations are released monthly I think.

This guy does an excellent job of explaining it: https://www.tundras.com/threads/toyota-allocation-ordering-transporting-system-explaination.107512/

Now you do you...but get your negative equity under control before you try rolling that in to a new vehicle.

 

LOL...I just quoted your post. It is a great post by the way.

 

also here is a confirmation screenshot of our tundra actually getting a build production date in nov-2022 and the dealer agreeing to a discounted sale price before trade in. note that msrp was 67,343 but our discount price was 62,758.

also here is a 2nd pic of the transport status of our tundra.


just be mindful that 99% of dealers will NOT let you see this detail of information, i have a more intimate relationship with my dealer since between me, wife, daughter, son we have bought maybe 15-20 toyota's from them.


the full details of the allocation process and our buying transaction can be found on tundras.com if you want in depth detail


btw truck was delivered to the dealer on 22-feb-2023, we drove off the lot on 23-feb-2023, about 10 months after our initial allocation reserver request was put in 5-may-2022.

 

If the Pro/Hybrid come out in fall would it still be a (MY) 2024!? That would be silly

 

I'm planning on selling my vehicle privately to get rid of the negative equity. The guy tried to use some sleight of mouth with me and it almost worked. He said "If you buy this today, besides the other benefits you'll be getting rid of that negative equity." And at the moment I didn't realize but while I was waiting for him to come back with the numbers, I realized .. No it's not getting of rid of the negative equity, it's just transferring it to the next vehicle, and then I will be underwater on the next vehicle.

Hehe. So I dunno. This kind of puts me in a hard place. Regardless of how it works, this to me is really stupid. It's like they're forcing you to buy something else other than what you want or wait an ungodly amount of time until what you want just "happens" to come along.

I think this contributes to the amount of trade ins. The people that are constantly trading in vehicles for other vehicles every few years.

I think I mentioned buying the 2011 Silverado.. I don't want to have this happen every few years. I want to buy one truck and that's my truck until it breaks down. I also don't want to have to throw a ton of cash into upgrades because I can't get what I want from the start.

I believe you I don't need it explained. I think it's really dumb, for reasons I wrote above.

So it seems like I might have to go to a larger dealer then. :/ Or maybe just search for something and find it.

Taking care of the negative equity isn't the most important for me if I can find a truck that I will keep forever. Obviously if a TRD Pro is not in the cards because of lack of availability or having to wait forever or whatever.. Obviously at that point it might be like OK FINE .. FINE .. I'll get a TRD Off-Road

And I know when I get it, I probably won't really give af about the interior trim. I'll have a truck that gets decent MPG (20) and one that does everything I want, minus the Pro trim. The Off-Road I'm actually satisfied with the shocks.

Transferring the negative equity to a TRD Off-Road wouldn't be the worst thing in the world because I will keep the truck forever or until I can easily afford to just pay it down quickly to the point where I can trade it in.

The thing is that the iForce Max Tacomas won't be out until Summer.. This is both a good thing and a bad thing.. It's a bad thing because I can't get one now, but it's a good thing because it gives me a few months to pay down my CC's to < 30% utilization to get a much better deal. I personally think that this is a better option than paying the vehicle down to reduce negative equity but I'm open to opinions.

What do you guys think? Pay down neg. equity or pay down CC's for a higher credit score? I don't wanna do half and half because I feel like the results will be of no consequence.

The reason I said it's bad if I can't get one now, is because if I got one now, I may have the current negative equity in a new vehicle .. but I wouldn't FURTHER LOSE VALUE on my Gladiator by waiting and waiting and waiting.. I have a feeling that Gladiator values are about to drop significantly.

I also have a feeling that it's possible I won't be able to sell my Gladiator for the price needed to cover the negative equity, EVEN THOUGH that price is a "good value" by Carfax, etc. I don't have good luck with selling things.

It sucks that the hybrids aren't out yet.

 

While this video is about high end dealerships, the concept is the same. You want those top line models, prove to us you're loyal and maybe we will call you first...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TiFZeSW-JI

 

In my case, that is seemingly more likely to me every day. I was first in line to put a deposit down for a TH at my dealer when they announced last fall. MY '25 is probably when I get one. Unless I really, really want it and pay a scam dealer with the usual exorbitant markup. Pay to play.

 

OP, you sound young. If I am wrong, I apologize in advance.

Looks like you have reliable transportation, 2022 Gladiator? Why not keep it or do you want the latest and greatest and stay in debt?