Payload/GVWR Thread

I have a 2020 Tacoma SR 4x4 access cab. Payload is 1300. I have had 250-300 in the cab (me plus stuff) plus 3/4 yard of soil (1500lb). The drive was 25 miles and up some very steep hills. So I have been waaay over. Didn't seem to be a problem but then I tend to be terrible with anything with a motor. Feel as if I dodged a bullet. I think carrying half a yard (1000 lb) is probably the right number.
Anyone have experience going over as much as I did?

 

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Am I reading the chart wrong or do the 4x2/4x4 Access Cab variants have a slightly lower payload than the 4x2/4x4 Double Cab variants despite the former possessing a lower curb weight? I see the DCs have a higher GVWR but why? Did Toyota decide to give the DC beefier suspensions or components compared to the AC for some reason? Also, why does the AC still tow more despite that? I thought payload and towing capacity were correlated and I'm assuming this is for the same trim. Super new so forgive me if I'm misunderstanding.

 

4 pages and not a single actual payload door jamb sticker pic of actual payload rating?

 

It's sort of a mess lol. I don't understand how the heavier truck has a higher payload than the lighter version of itself either. I am also waiting on door jamb stickers which no one wants to post for whatever reason.

 

it could be that the frame isn't the limiting factor, but the components are. it would be an interesting exercise to understand, though, as you could "technically" raise your GVWR by doing similar upgrades to a lesser model and drive with a bit more confidence.

of course, im sure the GVWR is 2x in Europe for the same truck with no changes LOL

 

A european VW diesel golf has twice the payload of any tacoma lol.

 

Like a lot of you, I've been trying to figure out if the listed 1,600-1,700 lb max payload numbers for the 2024 are accurate, specifically for the TRD OR and the TRD Sport. I've looked at probably a dozen different trucks in different trims (SR5, OR, and Sport) at 4 different dealerships. For each one, regardless of how many options it had installed, the payload number listed on the door placard has always been the same...1,200 lbs. Trying to sort this out, I took a lightly optioned (heated seats, 14 in screen, mud flaps, and bed step) TRD OR double cab/long bed with a 1,200 lb door sticker, from a dealer to a scale nearby. The actual weight of the truck (without driver and with 1/4 tank of fuel) was 4,660 lbs. Given the truck's listed GVWR of 6,305 lbs, that yields a payload of 1,645 lbs, which is very much in line with what's listed on the Tacoma specs page. So, hoping someone out there can shed some light on this; if the "actual" payload is 1,645 lbs, why would the door placard show a payload of only 1,200 lbs? Do manufacturers sandbag these numbers for safety? If you happened to be involved in an accident, which number would define your "legal" payload?

 

YES...just like muscle cars in 60s/70s underrated hp. It's not in their best (legal) interest to list accurate to the penny numbers.

 

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thats super interesting. candidly i always thought the photo on the left was specifically for tire load specifications and not payload of the vehicle itself, with the right side GVWR calculation being the actual load threshold of the rest of the truck. maybe that's incorrect, however?

 

After poking around some more, it looks like this blanket payload number thing isn't limited to just the Tacoma. A post I saw on a wrangler forum probably has the most likely answer; "I read somewhere that the sticker number is calculated based on base weight plus average of options added instead of weighing each individual truck at the factory."

 

This is the sticker and manual info for my OR. CW was scaled right on and going to rescale after build and fully loaded to double check. Remaining payload compares very well to other midsize with similar suspension travel/setup, but stock tires need upgrading. So easy to pack on the pounds.

 

The Trailhunter does have the highest GVWR, the reason the payload is less, is due to all the add-ons (skids, sliders, bed rack, air compressor, etc). If you were to mod a OR the same exact way, the OR would have less payload.

 

Great research! I’ve been looking for months to see if anyone has taken one to a scale. We all know they can’t ALL be exactly 1200lb as per the door sticker lol. I have seen one sticker of 1270 online but the rest 1200. Glad to know your truck came out with 1600+! That’s half ton territory! Is yours a 4wd long bed or short bed?

 

This is fascinating - so my TH can actually do more than 1200? Or is 1200 still accurate given the add ons? I’ll go check the GVWR and post it.

 

your best bet is to take your truck to a CAT scale and see what it weighs then subtract from the GVWR on your sticker.

 

For sure. Just bizarre the payload number is so far off. 1200 is not right.

 

im mostly impressed at how much higher the numbers are than the gen 2 tunda even.

 

I am loving that the GVWR is so high but baffled by the door placard. Mine says 1200 payload but will check GVWR later today. My truck shouldn’t weigh more than 5,360 pounds.