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Deaver Stage III or Dobinsons 112R

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TacomaTung, May 5, 2024.

  1. May 9, 2024 at 8:33 AM
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    geekhouse23

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    This photo was probably 8-900 pounds; camping gear, tools, RTT, swingout, spare, camper shell etc.
     
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  2. May 9, 2024 at 8:46 AM
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    You should weigh it sometime, cause I bet you are heavier than you think. Here's an old spotted pic of my Taco. Including the bumpers, me, camping gear, etc, this was 800 pounds. No RTT, Canopy, Roof Racks, or big tires like you have. I did have 150 pounds in water on board, though.

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  3. May 9, 2024 at 8:52 AM
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    Yeah.
    That weight dangling off the back has more leverage as well, so it's probably like 1.5x.

    I'm running the Deaver Stage II's and like them so far. I'm a bit lighter and don't hang anything off the back.
     
  4. May 9, 2024 at 8:58 AM
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    Yeah, that's 10 gallons of water on there, plus 11lb propane tank and water heater/pump system in the big case. And another 7 gallons of water at the tailgate. 150 pounds in just water containers, lol.
     
  5. Jun 7, 2024 at 7:33 AM
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    When I'm loaded for a week long trip with 20 gal water, 10 gal gas, firewood... I have over 4" of bump left.
    From empty to loaded up the truck squats under an inch.
    Last trip I went on the others were commenting they had none to very little bump left.
    Deaver stage 3 :thumbsup:20240310_184852.jpg 20240313_113206.jpg
     
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  6. Jun 7, 2024 at 7:48 AM
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    Aye that has been my experience as well, just picked up 640 lbs of bagged concrete in my Deaver U402-III-equipped Taco (that already has +500 lbs on the back of it) & there was still many inches of gap between the springs & the bump-stops.

    The thing I look forward to most (having only had these Deavers for a year) is that by all reports, they do not sag over time.
     
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  7. Jun 7, 2024 at 8:04 AM
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    Love my deavers! About 2000 lbs of porcelain tile and some other supplies.

    IMG_4655.jpg IMG_4653.jpg
     
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    Word. I've done exactly that, a full pallet of large-format porcelain tile. Very nice to be able to just forklift it in at the yard with barely any appreciable squat. With FOX 2.5 DSCs on all 4 corners dialed up to about 4/4, the ride was fine & felt easily controllable on surface streets & highway.
     
  9. Jul 4, 2024 at 6:10 AM
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    Thanks for the responses, I haven't been on here lately and forgot I even made this post. I will be going with deavers stage 3. Thanks for all the advice.
     
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  10. Jul 4, 2024 at 8:32 AM
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    E-rated tires pumped to 55-60 and aired down to 35? isnt that grossly overinflated at 55-60?
     
  11. Jul 11, 2024 at 4:58 PM
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    Max load rating is at 80 PSI for these tires.
     
  12. Jul 12, 2024 at 6:46 AM
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    Yeah.
    Yes, but 55-60 psi is still way overinflated. Using conversion tables, you should be running about 37 psi if you are running 265/75/R16 E-rated tires. If you are concerned that you are overweight, add a few psi, but over 40 psi is probably not necessary.
     
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  13. Jul 12, 2024 at 7:46 AM
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    I didn't think you understand how heavy my truck is. At 37 pounds my truck would not be safe to drive at highway speed. Steering is laggy and the truck wallows all over the road. Without the camper, I'll run 30 to 33, but with camper it really needs it. I can do 45/50 if I don't want to air up all the way, but don't like doing it unless it's a short drive. I even like to air up the rear to 65 if I'm towing. I've experimented a lot since having the Scout and running these pressures the truck feels and drives much better.
     
  14. Jul 12, 2024 at 8:43 AM
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    Yeah.
    I've seen your build thread, I'm sure that thing is super heavy. 30 to 33 is too low for E-rated tires on pavement, they require higher pressures to achieve the same load capacity. Based on OEM specs, you are shooting for about 2115 lbs capacity per tire. To achieve that with an E-rated LT265/75/R16 you need about 41 psi. Most people find that uncomfortable for pavement driving and aren't carrying the max weight all the time, so they drop a little pressure. But an LT tire should never go below 35 psi for pavement driving. I always ran 37 psi when I used that size tire.

    Going up to 60 psi gives you 2790 lbs per tire. That's 675 lbs more per tire, 1350 per axle. If you are overweight by more than double, that seems reasonable, but I would hope you've done a lot of frame reinforcement.

    It's your truck, do what you feel is right. I'm just saying that there are specs and tables available to provide better guidance than just what feels right.
     
  15. Jul 12, 2024 at 11:51 AM
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    I get where you are coming from and take no offense. I just know at the lower pressures you are suggesting my Duratracs only take swift steering wheel movements as a suggestion, lol, and the camper feels FAR more tippy. Without driving it first hand I'm sure it sounds odd on a Taco. :thumbsup:
     

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