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Remanufactured 1GR-fe ?? thoughts?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by FishaRnekEd, Jun 24, 2024.

  1. Jun 24, 2024 at 7:06 AM
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    FishaRnekEd

    FishaRnekEd [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have experience purchasing one of these?

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/374717040119

    https://phxenginespecialist.com/products/4l-toyota-1grfe

    https://www.powertrainproducts.net/...htm?searching=Y&sort=5&cat=743&show=20&page=3

    https://powertraincompany.com/product/toyota-1gr-fe-05-11-eng/

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/284153463889

    https://www.eagleeyeenginerebuilders.com/products/toyota-casting-1gr

    https://www.mandrcustomsandracing.com/

    I see plenty of pricing threads on used 1gr's, but most of those threads are several years old.

    Or should i just go used? any specific website?

    I have to pull my motor to fix my cracked frame/motor mount perch... (not from rust, just the bad 05 perch/welds)

    my 2005 engine has 190xxx miles on it. I sealed the classic 05 headgasket leak when it was pinhole sized (with sodium silicate). The sealer has been holding for maybe 20k miles and hasn't given me any problems.

    The rest of the truck is in great shape, so this is getting fixed, not junked or sold. I have 3 other running vehicles, and zero payments so i don't have to rush to fix it and it is worth the $ to me to pay for another motor.

    Since i am pulling the motor anyways, i figure it might be time to install one that isn't riding on a bad headgasket. For the price of having a reputable shop replace my headgaskets properly, i could spend another $2k and just have a remanned motor delivered right to me

    What are your experiences and sources with buying a used or rebuilt motor? I have read a million times about how "you can't rebuild a 1GR..." but, but...
     
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  2. Jun 24, 2024 at 7:08 AM
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    The quality nowadays of those things is very spotty. Better to do a gasket and timing job on a known good engine rather something that is totally unknown, but shiny.
     
  3. Jun 24, 2024 at 7:14 AM
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    I see your point, I could look for a decent shop and throw the 1gr in the bed of my other truck. I would have to go pretty far as everything in the New Orleans area is full of crooks and really unskilled "mechanics".
    I haven't finished my shop yet and now my taco is sitting in it dead.
     
  4. Jun 24, 2024 at 7:19 AM
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    Sub’d as I’m also now looking for a motor to swap. I can’t figure out how to de-risk it so looking for any good recommendations.
     
  6. Jun 24, 2024 at 8:20 AM
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    I have only purchased low miles engines from local sources where i could see it (or get it) running first from a wrecked vehicle. But i cant find a 2007-2011 4.0 with under 150k near me.

    have you inspected your driver side engine mount perch to frame? i didnt know this was a flaw in these trucks. Best to reinforce it, before the frame rips.
     
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    So you’re going to spend thousands to replace with a motor nobody has heard of these companies

    because you don’t feel like putting a gasket on

    And also not solid mounts to solve this
     
  8. Jun 24, 2024 at 11:02 AM
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    The mounts and perches, I can fabricate myself. not a problem there.
    I am not sure why you would recommend solid engine mounts. This isn't a drag car.
    I would not want solid mounts directly into an aluminum block. The rubber or urethane bushings in the mount are quite important.

    Headgaskets on this type of motor are not quick or easy (in comparison to a pushrod motor), do you understand what is entailed with pulling the heads?
    It is quite time consuming, to include taking the block somewhere to have it surfaced and then waiting to get it back.
    This motor has almost 200k. How worn are the rest of the guts in it?

    "putting a gasket on" you think it is just "putting a gasket on" ?

    Pulling a motor and then installing an identical motor is something i have done quite a few times. not a problem.

    Are you able to provide a reputable place that i can purchase a used or remanned motor???
    Because that is what i asked and you have provided no valuable input.

    Thanks
     
  9. Jun 24, 2024 at 12:39 PM
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    i haven’t but I’ll add it to the list:) I’m still in more of the denial phase at the moment and starting some research.
     
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    I would put a junkyard motor in over a rebuilt motor unless you know the machine shop is a trusted and reputable source
     
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    Yep, too many websites out there. I'm hoping someone will have experience with one of them and can tell us all about it.
     
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    I would buy a used motor from a reputable source before I’d buy a reman motor. I’d be searching on Coparts for a smashed up low mileage Tacoma.
     
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    if it’s not overheated the block is not warped nor in need of machining.

    there is a difference between a shit gasket failing due to being shit. And blowing one by overheating. The former is what tends to happen on ear

    solid mounts have poly sleeves.

    yeah head gaskets are quick and easy. It’s a Toyota.

    how worn is the rest of it? Don’t know. A properly maintained engine can last 1m. It probably has iron sleeves.

    mine also is high miles. Probably not worn. Looks new inside. Because it is maintained. Oil gets changed when it’s supposed to.

    you do not have a piston ring failure. You have a head gasket failure. It is a roomy engine bay. The valve covers are also likely leaking. That is the first step towards removing heads.

    you said it is an 05. It has defective gaskets that need to be replaced.

    that is not reliable because they lie.

    The average person crashing into a wall does not maintain their motor.
     
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    Why buy reman when you can buy a brand new short block from Toyota for $3k?

    Send the heads out to be rebuilt for $500 and you’re ready to go for another few hundred thousand miles.

    IMG_5715.jpg
     
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    This was the route I was looking at for myself. Not to hijack the thread too badly, sorry OP, but do you have experience with a specific head shop? I've pretty much resigned myself to sending them out.
     
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    I used a shop in Houston. I forgot the name, but they were a high volume engine machine shop. They seemed comfortable with the 1GRFE unlike some of the other shops I had contacted.
     
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    FSM should state procedure and if there’s enough meat to machine a block. Not every block has that.

    there’s a video going over the 1GR.
     
  18. Jun 25, 2024 at 8:03 AM
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    Just to clarify, only my heads were machined and rebuilt.

    The short block is 100% new from Toyota.
     
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    Did you order through a dealer, or buy online?

    Website?
     
  20. Jun 25, 2024 at 10:56 AM
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    I bought it through a dealer, but I would not recommend them.

    11400-39135 is the part #.
     

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