1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Wandering steering

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Major, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. Dec 26, 2008 at 8:23 PM
    #1
    Major

    Major [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Member:
    #8523
    Messages:
    92
    Gender:
    Male
    Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    2009 V-6 Tacoma Crew TRD off-road
    Husky Liners, Predator Running Boards, Undercover, TRD air filter, TRD front skid plate, TRD front brake pads, tint, TRD bed mat, Alpine Speakers and Alpine Amp, chrome grill cover
    I have an 09 TRD (off road) 4X4 DC, V6 that has an all stock suspension and the stock BF Goodrich tires. Ever since I have had this truck it just does not seem to steer correctly. After taking delivery, it had a wheel shimmy at 55-65 MPH which the dealer seems to have corrected with an alignment; however, when in the center steer position, the truck seems to wander. At speeds of 70-75 MPH it is a fight all the time to keep it tracking straight. The dealer has checked it and said they can find no issues, but I feel should not have to make constant steering corrections to keep the vehicle in a straight line. Seems when the wheels are turned it tracks correctly, but back to a center steer position (wheel in straight steer position) and it will begin to wander. If there is any wind at all, the fight is really on. Any bit of wind and the truck is all over the road. Given this is a smaller tuck and lighter, I expect cross winds to be felt, but if you are not paying attention, you might end up in the other lane. Anyone else having the same issue or is this normal for this truck? I keep thinking that the steering rack has an issue, but the dealer has said all is normal.

    Also, is there a steering stablizer kit out there that will help with this?

    One other issue I have noted of late, my drivers front coil spring squeaks when the suspension travels. The noise appears to be coming from the bottom end where it mounts into the bottom plate, anyone else had this?
     
  2. Dec 26, 2008 at 8:47 PM
    #2
    fireturk41

    fireturk41 I like to break shit!

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Member:
    #11857
    Messages:
    4,840
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    High Point, NC
    Vehicle:
    280k miles
    SAS, Locked front rear, Ufab sliders and bumpers, air compressor, 35" BFG KM2 on steelies and 36" TSLs
    i dunno i think my 02 needs to be alighned as well, if you think it could be the weight though try adding sandbags in the back to help
     
  3. Dec 26, 2008 at 9:06 PM
    #3
    Major

    Major [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Member:
    #8523
    Messages:
    92
    Gender:
    Male
    Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    2009 V-6 Tacoma Crew TRD off-road
    Husky Liners, Predator Running Boards, Undercover, TRD air filter, TRD front skid plate, TRD front brake pads, tint, TRD bed mat, Alpine Speakers and Alpine Amp, chrome grill cover
    I did put three 60 lb sandbags in the back and it had not effect. Love the truck, but it will wear you out on a 2 hour trip.
     
  4. Dec 26, 2008 at 9:10 PM
    #4
    fireturk41

    fireturk41 I like to break shit!

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2008
    Member:
    #11857
    Messages:
    4,840
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    High Point, NC
    Vehicle:
    280k miles
    SAS, Locked front rear, Ufab sliders and bumpers, air compressor, 35" BFG KM2 on steelies and 36" TSLs

    let someone you trust really well drive it a lil and make sure the problem isnt only you. im serious, in my moms vehicle the steering feels hard to turn to me but to some people its fine, just like my mom can barely drive my truck, hence why i dont let her lol
     
  5. Dec 26, 2008 at 9:16 PM
    #5
    Khaos

    Khaos Big Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2008
    Member:
    #4570
    Messages:
    6,454
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bryant
    Jacksonville, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2011 DC TRD SPORT Prerunner
    3” spacer lift, 285/75/17 KO2, Spidertrax 1.25” spacers
    My truck felt like that back when I had the stock rugged trails on. But then again when I got the the truck the tires where nearly worn and the alignment was off.
     
  6. Dec 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM
    #6
    tacomaman06

    tacomaman06 Carolina Alliance: Enforcer

    Joined:
    May 1, 2007
    Member:
    #1475
    Messages:
    26,212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Will
    York,South Carolina
    Vehicle:
    '16 Tundra TRD Pro
    getting there....
    the 06 prerunner that i previously had was exactly like your describing. had numerous alignments and tire balances, most with no avail. about the only thing i found that helped was setting my air pressure to around 32 for the front tires and 30 for the rears...........that and a "good" alignment made the ride better..............but it still didnt fully take care of the wandering issues i was having. it was a bit better when i installed new tires(bridgestone revos) though..........those rugged trails wore weird and stayed outta round after 10k miles.
     
  7. Dec 27, 2008 at 2:54 AM
    #7
    nvdeserted

    nvdeserted Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2008
    Member:
    #11062
    Messages:
    1,299
    Gender:
    Male
    Reno, NV
    Vehicle:
    2009 Tacoma TRD OR Access Cab
    Electric Dynolock tailgate, TrailGear Slides, , 285/75-16 Yoko Geolanders on Wheelers Type B, SAW 2.0 front and back, Camburg b/j UCA, 1.5" AAL, Ubolt flip, ARB bump.
    Mine's an '09 Access and I dont have that problem as descibed regarding the steering or squeaking. Tacomaman06 makes a good point about adjusting your tire pressure, if your tires are over-inflated it will make the truck much more squirrely and have alot more bump-steer and cause more wandering. I usually keep mine on the lower side of the reccomended PSI. Also make sure to check the PSI when the tires are COLD, otherwise you might air-down too much. (if your tires are 20psi cold, they will read as 50psi when hot... not really that dramatic but you get the idea). It's OK to have the front and back at different PSI's for preference, but make sure the 2fronts are the same, and the 2 rears are the same. Try 30psi and see how that affects the steering.

    As for the squeaking I wouldn't worry a whole lot, but it likely means there is some kind of friction going on during articulation: if you can pin-point the noise (which never works, but if you can...) see if any damage is occuring where the friction is taking place. Most likely the damage will be that only you notice the squeak and it will echo louder and louder in you head until it drives you insane. Spray-clean the front suspension components (springs etc) then give a healthy coat of Armorall all over everything that looks like it moves. Plus, remember that coils have an amplifying effect: give a spring a little tap with a hammer and it vibrates the noise all over the spring. Plus there are all kinds of bushings and crap pulling and pushing etc when the suspension articulates... it might just be a "breaking in noise" that will be gone by summer.

    Good luck!
     
  8. Dec 27, 2008 at 5:14 AM
    #8
    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Member:
    #6497
    Messages:
    112,751,526
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FlimFlubberJAM
    Tenoe, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2019 Rubicon 4 Door,
    4.10 gears, sliders, and lots of buttons.
    The Tacoma does not have alot of caster built into the front suspension geometry,, like most other truck (Tacoma 2,5 to 3* where as Dodge has about 6*), so that will make it feel "loose" compared to other trucks and cars. Toyota does this to give better leverage to the front tires for off roading. Adding weight to the rear brings the front of the truck up reduceing the caster.
     
  9. Dec 27, 2008 at 5:19 AM
    #9
    missileman125fw

    missileman125fw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Member:
    #3912
    Messages:
    2,714
    Huh, I was told that my low-profile tires were the cause. They said the tire is so wide that it FEELS everything in the road.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Dec 27, 2008 at 5:29 AM
    #10
    Don G

    Don G Old Goat

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Member:
    #3110
    Messages:
    1,198
    Southern Tier New York
    Vehicle:
    "08" Tacoma Access Cab TRD Sport 4X4
    When I got my taco I found myself constantly moving the steering wheel back and forth. My wife said I was making her sick weaving back and forth! ! ! Once I stopped doing that it was fine. The problem was after driving my conversion van with some ware in the steering gear, I did it even when I didn't need to:)
     
  11. Dec 27, 2008 at 5:34 AM
    #11
    Don G

    Don G Old Goat

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Member:
    #3110
    Messages:
    1,198
    Southern Tier New York
    Vehicle:
    "08" Tacoma Access Cab TRD Sport 4X4
    Hey MM, Nice lookin' ride, I like the low profile tires!!!!:)
     
  12. Dec 27, 2008 at 7:02 AM
    #12
    missileman125fw

    missileman125fw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Member:
    #3912
    Messages:
    2,714
    Thanks Don!
     
  13. Dec 27, 2008 at 8:14 AM
    #13
    Major

    Major [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    Member:
    #8523
    Messages:
    92
    Gender:
    Male
    Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    2009 V-6 Tacoma Crew TRD off-road
    Husky Liners, Predator Running Boards, Undercover, TRD air filter, TRD front skid plate, TRD front brake pads, tint, TRD bed mat, Alpine Speakers and Alpine Amp, chrome grill cover
    Thanks Gang for all the feedback. Other than the steering issues, I could not be happier with this truck, if I get this solved I will have many happy miles ahead. I will adjust the tire pressures and see what happens. Thanks again !!!!
     
  14. Dec 27, 2008 at 8:58 AM
    #14
    tacomaman06

    tacomaman06 Carolina Alliance: Enforcer

    Joined:
    May 1, 2007
    Member:
    #1475
    Messages:
    26,212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Will
    York,South Carolina
    Vehicle:
    '16 Tundra TRD Pro
    getting there....
    let us know how it turns out for ya man!:)
     
  15. Dec 27, 2008 at 9:20 AM
    #15
    106Tacoma

    106Tacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2007
    Member:
    #2381
    Messages:
    319
    Vehicle:
    Debadged 06 Black Sand Pearl 4x4 Every option.
    Mine has done that from day 1, seems to want to drive in the grooves.
     
  16. Dec 27, 2008 at 1:04 PM
    #16
    hoosiertaco

    hoosiertaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2008
    Member:
    #9084
    Messages:
    4,906
    Had your exact problem right off the lot. Vibration at 50-55 and major road wander! Took it back and they balanced the tires with no success.

    They then went back and 'road force' balanced the tires and found 3 out of round.

    After they replaced the 3 tires and then 'road force' balanced the new tires, it tracked perfect with no vibration. All this before 150 miles.

    In other threads about this issue, some feel if you don't get the balance problem on the stock tires fixed immediately, it will cause them to be out of round permanantly.

    Make sure they 'road force' balance! Why they insist on a regular balance before a road force balance I have no idea.
     
  17. Dec 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM
    #17
    nvdeserted

    nvdeserted Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2008
    Member:
    #11062
    Messages:
    1,299
    Gender:
    Male
    Reno, NV
    Vehicle:
    2009 Tacoma TRD OR Access Cab
    Electric Dynolock tailgate, TrailGear Slides, , 285/75-16 Yoko Geolanders on Wheelers Type B, SAW 2.0 front and back, Camburg b/j UCA, 1.5" AAL, Ubolt flip, ARB bump.

    Haha! I find myself doing this too. I use to have this Jeep that had about 150 degrees of "dead play" in the steering while going straight, plus the steering-wheel was huge... I looked like I was trying to wave down a helicopter when I was driving straight.
     
  18. Dec 27, 2008 at 4:16 PM
    #18
    2009tacomav6

    2009tacomav6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Member:
    #11323
    Messages:
    383
    Gender:
    Male
    phx AZ
    Vehicle:
    2012 4x4
    TRD SC TRD Cat Back KMC 17x9 Addicts
    I have had the same issue since I bought my truck. I have 2000 miles on the DC 4x4 and it wonders all over the place I am constantly fighting to keep it going strait. So it was a tire out of round issue?
     
  19. Dec 27, 2008 at 4:53 PM
    #19
    hoosiertaco

    hoosiertaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2008
    Member:
    #9084
    Messages:
    4,906
    For me it was, but I also had vibration through the steering wheel at 55mph.
     
  20. Dec 27, 2008 at 4:54 PM
    #20
    toku58

    toku58 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Member:
    #9882
    Messages:
    2,534
    Gender:
    Male
    On a Rock in the middle of the Pacific
    Vehicle:
    Mall Crawler!
    21' TRD OffRoad 2" 887 OME on Bilstein 5100's. 285/70R17 General Grabbers G3 17x8.5" Icon TRD wheels (Gun metal gray) 4.75" BS

Products Discussed in

To Top