1st Gen Lunchtable Thread - General Discussion

Since when do engineers care about budgets

 

You can use something cheaper for sure. Used the A19 as a example and they are reliable.

 

This is why i took the teaching position at the union hall and give all the students my personal and say call me 24/7 if you need help. Because i been that guy on a roof at 3am stuck on a call and non of my Formans or journymen will answer my calls

I hate when you get old journeymen getting mad at new apprentices because they don’t know something. Like dude whats your problem you didn’t know the same shit at some point.

 

Dude that's fucking awesome

I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable in what I do as you are with your job, but I do love teaching as well and do so often in other areas

Good on you for doing that

 

Yeah teaching is fun. I enjoy it, whats also cool if when guys talk about stuff from work and you’re trying to help them understand it or solve it. Especially of it’s something I’ve never seen before.
Plus the Forman pay for teaching is nice

 

When I'm paying for it myself

 

It took a few years of actual work for a lot of the stuff I learned in college (BS in Computer Science) to really become useful. Even then, a lot of the usefulness was just remembering a word or phrase to search for and read up on. That's been enough to give me an advantage over folks who don't have the same education.

At the same time, I've worked with plenty of people who had education (including Masters degrees) but didn't have the real-life experience or mindset to put that education to use.

Good education is like a catalyst. It can accelerate the process of gaining experience, but it still needs the experience to make things happen.

 

Tell work to give you a raise

Since this is after all, job-related

 

This is why as an instructor i make sure to hammer in the fundamentals in because with a solid understanding of them you can start to figure out how things work in the real world.
Because in hvac theres a 100 different ways to achieve the same thing and they all look different but do the exact same thing.

also why I try to use real world examples for guys that pertain to their part of the hvac industry they are in.

 

Just submit a material requisition fourm

 

Very much the same way in software. 100 ways to do a thing, all of them will work, some will be more or less effective (or have better or worse side-effects) depending on the situation.

It's easy to fall into the trap of expecting a single "correct" way to do things, or focusing on whether a thing "looks right" without fully understanding what it's doing.

 

It's all about who you know

 

Dammit @time623

Ninja delete your engineer comment

 

I thought it was Sper that said it not you lol didn’t make as much sense when I noticed who I actually replied to.
Wasn’t quick enough to get it past you

 

To reword now that I know who I’m replying to
My job would be a hell of a lot easier as an engineer if I didn’t have to care about budgets. Engineering around the budget (which is never enough) is the shitty part that ends up in corners cut and pissed off people down the chain

Not to defend plain shitty engineers who completely leave things off drawings etc or deliver something that just doesn’t work

 

Can't out ninja a ninja

I'm online looking at tonnage charts and gathering ideas (again)

 

For a press or HVAC?

 

My favorite is when engineers copy and past shit that doesn’t make sense. Or they draw something like ductwork going straight through the beam so you RFI it and they just get all confused when you ask them how you’re supposed to do the impossible

 

Yeah I got no excuse for just stupid mistakes like that

 

Or another classic is “contractor should field very to make sure it works” then when you go back and tell them their engineering will never work but they don’t change the drawings

or “drawings are diagrammatical and not to scale” like cool you gave me some generic ass drawing that has no bearing on what is actually possible in the field. Like cool let me add PT ports before and after a valve that literally has PT ports built into it.