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How many signs did your Road Sign Assist up?

Discussion in '4th Gen. Tacomas (2024+)' started by Want-a-taco, Jul 14, 2024.

  1. Jul 14, 2024 at 7:12 PM
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    knayrb

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    It’s the navigation software. It doesn’t read anything. Each road is in the database with the gps location of all the specs like speed limit, ped crossings, school zones, how many lanes, traffic direction, intersections, curb islands or painted divider, etc.

    My old garmin driveluxe 51 gets 4 free updates a year with new and improved roads added. Try getting a built in update for less than $500. I won’t buy a built in navigation system.
     
  2. Jul 14, 2024 at 7:18 PM
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    I cant share it directly but I can tell you the signs the camera can recognize.

    Stop.
    No Uturn, No Turn.
    No Turn on red.
    Pedestrian Crossing.
    Road works.
    Yield.

    Thats it.
     
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  3. Jul 14, 2024 at 8:24 PM
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    Digitalwiz5

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    The first thing the salesman for every Toyota I’ve bought since 2022 did was sign…or try to sign me up for the data giveaway…er Toyota connected services. I don’t believe for a moment Toyota isn’t doing it.
     
  4. Jul 14, 2024 at 8:34 PM
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    Sagebrush

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    Typical of class action lawyers chasing the clouds: "A federal judge upheld the dismissal of a class action lawsuit that alleged..." If there were a basis for the suit, it would have plowed through the court.
     
  5. Jul 14, 2024 at 8:54 PM
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    Shame “WRONG WAY” isn’t on this list: if anyone is actually assisted by the sign assist on the dashboard, i could actually see them ending up on the wrong side of the highway unknowingly, and then actually need this “feature”


    actually. Like the elderly who forget they're wearing their reading glasses when driving (respectfully) and take a wrong turn (in all seriousness)
     
  6. Jul 14, 2024 at 11:35 PM
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    Yeah, I should'a been more clear. I was referring to selling driver telemetry to insurance companies.
     
  7. Jul 15, 2024 at 12:19 AM
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    Doesn't Benz have a radar system that detects animals even at night? That's a great humanoid upgrade. IMO
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    Sad but in a capitilistic world I guess all things advance whether we like it or not because either some inventor or company wants to patent and profit from it. Some exceptions of course, seat belts and antibiotics were "given away" for human benefit and not for profit.
    But electric cars could become the first example of racing to advancement that no one wanted lol. What a disaster....but yet we still line up to buy this shit...
     
  8. Jul 15, 2024 at 7:00 AM
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    Turned off all the connected services in the app since all my trials ended and almost the whole MID reset, not sure if it’s because of that or not but will let the dealer know when I go in for first service
     
  9. Jul 15, 2024 at 7:16 AM
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    Wife's '24 Lexus has the road sign assist. It's helpful when you miss a speed limit sign and it shows up on the dash for you. CarPlay only shows you what the speed limit is *supposed* to be, but the assist reads the actual posted sign.

    The car also had connected services and the data module disabled from the dealership. Haven't looked too much into it, but it sounds like it's supposed to be turned on during pre-delivery and the dealership didn't do it. Regardless, her remote start works, we're not subscribed to anything and they told me I had to go to the dealership for "service" to have the stuff turned back on. No thanks...she gets factory remote start AND no government spying? I'm good.
     
  10. Jul 15, 2024 at 7:53 AM
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    No speed limit? I thought I saw that on a YouTube.
     
  11. Jul 15, 2024 at 7:57 AM
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    I get the speed limit, that's the only sign that's picked up semi-reliably. All the others are hit and miss.
     
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    This technology has already been alot of fun for me. I have a teenager who is in training and the other day I had to get on him for going 10 over in a neighborhood. Sure enough he points out that the truck says 45 MPH and Im looking at the street sign that says 35. We had a talk about explaining that to a cop and how stupid you would sound.
     
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    Updates over the air don't update hardware.
    Never did succeed in online updating my 8 track to cd.
     
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    It reads the signs. There may be some sort of GPS component based on the road segment, but I've driven through temporary work zones that are not on GPS and it reads those signs.
     
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    Well, I don’t see how it does that in fog, snow, or dark. What I can tell you is that in addition to GPS coordinates on the roads most units receive a digital traffic broadcast with current traffic conditions, road closures, detours, etc. That is the same data google maps and other navigation systems use on your phone. My GPS will adjust the arrival time based on that.
     
  17. Jul 16, 2024 at 5:06 AM
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    Fog and snow will be a challenge, dark not an issue, signs are reflective to lights and can be seen clear from a distance.

    Yes the navigation system does it on its own display when that data is available.

    I use Waze on Carplay. Waze is owned by Google now, so for traffic it uses a combination of what Google and Waze users provide with their phone being tracked by GPS. I'm a map editor for Waze, and I've had to edit some of the speeds on some roads that were wrong and didn't always start at the right location. So Waze does it by having it set on the maps.

    When I pull out of my driveway, Waze knows the speed limit and displays it right away. The instrument cluster doesn't display the speed until I pass the first speed limit sign. It's blank. Every time I turn on a new road, no speed is displayed until I pass the first sign. In construction zones, it has displayed the lower speed limit on the instrument cluster, but in Waze, it didn't show the lower speed, just that other users have reported a construction zones. For that reason, it does support what others have been saying that it utilises the Sense 3.0 camera for this.
     
  18. Jul 18, 2024 at 10:49 AM
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    Before Waze was acquired by Google, users could edit the Waze database to update road segments with speed limit data. The Waze DB had an average speed limit based on actual user data, but it wasn't shown in the app until it was validated by an authorized editor. It started using the TIGER data from the US Census, and you could add new roads by using a "record my drive" feature which added new roads to the Waze database. TIGER isn't updated more than maybe once a year. Google took over and had the speed limit data from all their streetview drives, and I assume used all the data collected from phones to validate the speed limits per road segment, and all the aerial and satellite imaging to add new roads with AI.

    Years ago I did surveying and we had to manually map roads with transit, stadia, and theodolite then give the rudimentary data points to a GIS specialist who built maps. Once highly accurate GPS came along, it made the job 100x faster and more accurate especially in the heat. With all the shimmering heat in the summer, on hot roads, we couldn't get very far from the theodolite and still be accurate to read the rod. GPS made it possible to do super accurate roads in any conditions. That's just a random trivia.
     
  19. Jul 18, 2024 at 11:39 AM
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    It’s interesting trivia.
     
  20. Jul 24, 2024 at 5:08 PM
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    Drove through a “prison area. Do not pick up hitchhikers” today. Truck thought it was a school zone. Warned me to drive 25mph. Lol
     

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