Long Travel BS Thread

Agree to disagree.

Bypasses don't have a lot of slow speed damping to begin with due to their design.

Sure, you engage the main piston a bit more at high speed but you still loose damping. Especially in the bottom out zone.

The reason you think bleed keeps things cooler is because you've lost damping. Less damping = less heat.

 

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Undoubtedly nothing wrong with going to 3.0 as long as you’re cool doing a frame notch. I’m on -38’s with 1.25” spacers and still kiss my 2.5’s.[/QUOTE]

your running 35's, I am running 34's that are 11.5" wide

I was hoping to "sneak" a 3.0 in there without frame notching, I know of a few folks that use 3.0's without frame notches on DK SUA kits. I should be able to do the same, may need to reconfigure the bedcage to move the shocks in a bit.

 

By increasing valving you 100% gain dampening in the bump zone. Bypass tubes have zero impact on your bump zone. Shaft speed has everything to do with it. You WANT your bypass tubes as open as possible while still maintaining the desired handling/ride quality.

This is why bypasses are valved significantly heavier than a smoothie.

 

Sure... until you add a bunch of bleed. It's counterproductive.

Never said bypass tubes have any impact on the bump zone. I said bypasses don't have a lot of slow speed control due to the bypass design.

 

I would love to know how adding bleed via bypass tubes is counter productive. There are numerous ways of doing this other than turning screws as well. A shock that doesn’t have enough bleed is a shock that is going to over heat 100% of the time.

 

Are you talking about bleed on the main piston or on the check valves?

 

Sorry I did not mean to get a heated disagreement going.

 

It happens

 

Mainly discussing bleed at the tubes/check valves. Though piston bleed is also an option as well, that will hurt bump zone performance. I’m assuming this is what you were thinking when I started mentioning bleed.

 

i thought you said the shocks were getting hot?

 

That is correct. When you refer to bleed, I assume main piston bleed.

Specifics matter but not all shock manufacturers have bleed options for the bypass check valves.

 

I’ve been mentioning tubes this whole time lol.

And that’s what drill bits are for.

 

I'm not heated. I'm all for a good conversation.

Sometimes misinformation needs to be addressed.

Or lack of specifics, which appears to be the case here.

 

We've been talking about bypass this entire time. Tubes are inherently apart of the conversation.

Or a properly designed/sized shock...

 

Not heated either. Love these discussions.

Long story short. Playing with shocks is cheap. The components are also cheap. My rear pistons have like 4 holes blown through them. My issue was always the proper valving being improper at the bump zone and creating a harsh engagement. Punching some holes fixed that, keeps my shocks cool and a piston is like 50$ if you mess it up.

 

Oh I know. I needed piston bleed for my issue. @SoCaltaco65 needs to get his tubes open more. I’m simply stating that playing around yields great results.

 

What layout to do you currently have front & rear?

 

Embrace it man, disagreement between smart people is how dumb people like me learn.