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The Official Gym & Fitness Thread

Discussion in 'Health' started by TyT, Jan 31, 2011.

  1. Aug 22, 2024 at 5:09 AM
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    I am in shape as long as I get to define the shape.

    Have you tried swimming and/or cycling?

    Running is ass on the knees and joints. Walking is fine, but still 5+ miles and it starts to wear on you. It's unfortunate because running is one of the "express lanes" for calorie burn. I ride bikes, decent enough road bike gets me around. I had a stationary recumbent but we got rid of that this year, I always told myself I would use it but it never got enough use nowadays, so we pitched it.

    Commence jealousy.
    We want to go that route but we have a ton of work to do on the house to include that.
    We only have 100A service and our panel is chock full. Along with needing to set up where it would go etc.
    But I am jealous :p
     
  3. Aug 22, 2024 at 4:43 PM
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    Running is not bad on your knees. I have the optimal biomechanics for running (not everyone does). My knee surgeon is impressed by my knee xrays because I have more cartilage than most at my age.
    Biking actually kills my knees and hips. Again all biomechanics. Biking doesnt like me. Its funny but my biology is set up as a runner.
    I also pretty much loathe all cardio but running. Its my passion. It is hard to motivate me to do anything cardio but running.

    A friend of mine is moving so I got the primo opportunity to buy a used hottub. I do have plenty of electrical panel space which we are fortunate for. Electrician comes tomorrow. I’m so excited to get this thing going.
    Although they are maint nightmares but we are prepared for that.
     
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    Different from my experience for sure. I've got total gaps in cartilage on the underside of kneecap and tibia, and a large divot on the femur. For me running is not ideal, so to combat when I have to at work I am way on my toes trying to soften the impact as much as possible. Biking flares up the Ligament I've torn in the past thats fighting to hold my kneecap in place + over time soreness from cartilage issue. I find the best cardio for me is a walk at a slow enough pace I can really rolll heel-toe with my strides, and then add some incline. I've also resorted to making sure my core workouts are high intensity low rest so I can keep heart rate up during that as well.

    Since no injection for pain in last 8 months I've dropped body weight and cutting, since cant lift heavy lower, why be high body fat % right :D

    I'm hovering around 155lbs now just eating super clean and avoiding any binge eating but not counting calories. Feels better on my knee to run at 155 than 188 last winter too. 3 strict form Muscle ups is the new record. Just a for fun movement tho lol
     
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    How you are made and your biomechanics make a big deal when it comes to what people can do. If you stood straight and drew a line from the attachment of your femur to your pelvis all the way down through the center of your ankle. If that line passes through the center of your knee, running is fine for you. If it doesn't, you may be able to improve some of those biomechanics, but others may have issues.

    The only time I would be at risk for a knee replacement or OA in my knees is if I had a traumatic injury. I have tons of cartilage.

    Biking kills my knees. Just like you said it causes my knee cap to track weird causing patellofemoral pain after just a few sessions on the bike. Plus biking just is uncomfortable.

    I just had neck and back MRIs as part of the diagnostic process for my nerve issues. My spine is fucking perfect. I was so worried I would have asymptomatic injuries and I'd rather just be ignorant of that haha. I was in a bad roll over car accident not wearing a seatbelt (1 out of 10 don't recommend) in the past so I was sure something might be there. Just some disc height loss at L4-5 which is normal with age.

    Hopefully no spine or knee issues for me. My left hip is giving me some troubles on and off. The more active I am the less it bothers me. If I have a labral tear (which most people do after 30-40 years old) that may be an arthritic point for me later.

    I'm 200lbs now which is just crushing to me. Gotta try to get that down back to my normal lean 150lbs. Its just hard to do when some days you can't be active. It makes it super hard to create a consistent routine.

    What worked for me in the past isn't possible right now. LOVE to run, that was never a chore to me so I did it easily, ran 8-10 miles like it was nothin. Don't like other cardio now I have to force myself to do it. Some days I can hardly walk so creating a weekly weight training routine becomes difficult. So I just have to try to retrain my brain to just do what I can on the days I can, then back off on the food on the days I can't. I can do it, it is just difficult. I have to retrain my brain.

    Just an aside, neurologist thinks my nerve issues MAY be caused by COVID. He's seen people get complete limb paralysis after and varying degrees of peripheral neuropathy. I was really shocked a doctor would be willing to relate the two since so many are very hesitant to address long COVID issues. Just saying that for others who may or may not be experiencing the same. No diagnosis yet, I just have loss of sensation and nerve pain in my feet and ankles and some sensation loss in my hands.
     
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    No sarcasm. Just fat and weak. Still lift…just fat and weak.
     
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    My joints are straight if you have 4 beers and close one eye lol


    The doc wants to do a tibial osteotemy and cut and rotate the tibia to “maybe help some” of the alignment and rubbing issues and better align the joint. I straight up told him that’s not confident enough for me to commit to that invasive and risky of an operation
     
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    How old are you?
     
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  10. Aug 25, 2024 at 4:09 PM
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    You need to strongly consider the surgery. At your age OA and joint replacement is a promise.
    joint replacements these days maybe last 20 years. Youll need mulitple revisions assuming you make it to 40 before a total knee replacement.
    Medicine advances every day. The longer you can delay a TKR the more likely medical tech means you don’t have to have one.
    At 21 you can recover from just about any surgery very very very well.
    As long as the surgeon doing it is a knee specialist I’d jump at the opportunity in your 20s.
    Honestly the recovery time is less than a total knee replacement lol.

    I had my surgery on my knee with a 4-6mo recovery time at 28 and recovered well. Faster than expected. You’d do better than most.

    Doesnt mean its not scary, expensive, and risky. Youd just be in the best place to recover well.
     
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    Not simple ever for sure. TKR before 30 because of cartilage is in my future regardless. Osteotemy won’t fix cartilage at all. And osteotemy is a 4 month crutches, 10 month till running expected duration. Hard to sign up for that as my final semester starts. Maybe after.

    Cartilage issues are just basically manage pain as I can, so I’m changing some habits to limit that. Not ideal. It’s past the point the cartilage can be repaired, but how fast it’s wearing down could “maybe” be slowed down


    Funny part is I know a guy in his 40’s just had a partial replacement and was able to walk out of the hospital to his car, weight bearing…
     
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    Thats a really hard decision.
    An osteotomy isnt easy. I had one on my big toe done by a top foot and ankle surgeon in the country. He was so confident in the fix I didnt realize the surgery fails most of the time. He also did an experimental PRP injection and basically dry needling in my cartilage to try to repair my cartilage damage.
    Whatever he did worked (of course I did my part with PT). New xrays show no new OA changes.

    For a knee would be ten fold. You would just heal very well at your age. They are trying to print cartilage with stem cells. Who knows if that can be done or other treatments can’t be possible in 10+ years.

    Partial knees done on very active and healthy people can be minimally disruptive. Same with anterior hip replacements.

    A successful surgery takes an experienced surgeon and a compliant patient. Patients are usually who fuck it up hahaha. Many patients are so tired of pain before surgery that after surgery they don’t tolerate the pain of PT well and don’t do it at 100%.

    Forgive me, I spend all day reading and analyzing medical records.
     
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    Fair and yep I know the gift of youth is on my side but I’ve already spent over 2 years of my 21 on crutches alone. My physical therapist in high school bought me a birthday present lmao. I think she felt bad. And knowing that partial and total replacement is needed. I think it’s better to just manage pain and change habits than sign up for that osteotemy since doc says even the best clinic’s soft tissue guy here in reno won’t even attempt to fix the cartilage since it’s total bone on bone.

    and an osteotemy sounds terrifying when the doc isn’t confident lol. My change from bulking to cutting helped comfort while running massively. I can forgo the heavy lifts while I don’t have an injection. Wild that 155 I can run 10-15 miles in a shift at work vs when I was 188 I’d ache after 5-6

    I do miss the feeling of being done with some heavy squats though :(

    im thinking of beginning some calisthenics training while im this light. I’ve been hesitant since I have some shoulder issues caused both genetically and from a growth plate break and separation from my baseball days. As long as I never stoop down to cross-fit bro level
     
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    Was this triggered by an injury or this is the biomechanics blessed on you by your parents?

    I hope all goes well and youcan find your wsy back to being active.
     
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    knee cap naturally tracks outward and groove isn’t super deep. But also broke kneecap into 12 pieces and tore MCL and mpfl all at once. Some cartilage lost then, and then kneecap wasn’t same shape after and amplified the grinding of cartilage. Had mpfl redone twice now to help with dislocating, but that also pulls it inwards more and also adds to grinding of cartilage. And that ligament is so tight heavy use aggravates it and it’ll swell and tighten up my whole knee if I over do it/tweak it.

    4 surgeries in 5 years so far on it
     
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    No cool story like you tried to save a 1st grader class on a field trip from a Bear and it shattered your patella?
     
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    someone rolled over my foot/lower leg in soccer while at a full sprint and my foot stuck in the ground...

    Leg hyper extended so far the joint just collapsed on itself. Doc thinks somehow the tibia and femur just crushed my kneecap between them. And breaking and dislocating kneecap tore MPFL, and my MCL just couldn't handle the stretch the joint got to. Theres not even game film of it cus pre season...
     
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    Eh that sucks. Same happened to a friend of mine playing volleyball. Shes had multiple surgeries.

    I wish you the best with it and I hope it does well over time.
     
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    Hope everyone has a good holiday weekend.

    I’m hoping to get in some gym time this weekend. Followed up with, of course hot tub time.

    10/10 reccommend getting a hot tub.

    Although in the future I’m paying someone to do a concrete pad because digging your own base… yeah never again.

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    Please dont judge my deck color. This was the first time I allowed my husband to have a say in color choice.
     
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    I woke up to find out I got the 'rona so there's that.

    Is being that close to the wall or Windows up to code? I haven't a clue, just curious.

    We're staring down the barrel of huge renno vs pitch it and buy a different house sort of thing. Hot tub is on the list.
     

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