New Toyo Open Country A/T III tire

Either that or finally get the fox 2.5's installed with 285/70/17.

 

I have the SLs and have about 30k on them over 3.5 years. I'll be needing replacements this summer I believe. I'm at about 5/32" and getting some signs of aging which I think are only cosmetic. So, I could probably maybe squeeze another winter in but I'm experiencing some decreased performance (normal) and I've got some remote trips planned this year so I think I'll probably have these off with under 32k miles in total. They seem like a soft compound that is great for traction but I have no idea how people are getting 65k.

They were a nice light tire. Never looked very aggressive. Good on wet roads, snow and rock, medium on ice and sand, fairly poor in the mud (AT tires right?). They got me through a cool Utah trip that included that Arizona strip and plenty of lava rock areas around home. I was luke warm on getting another set but writing this out reminded me of all the good times we've had and I've never been let down. Here is a "how it started/ how it's going":

 

This is good information, and reinforces the idea that the SL treads really don’t last very long. They are, however, nice to drive.

For what it’s worth, I think the warranty is 65K, but nobody actually reaches that. Most people actually running the tires down seem to make it to around 30K on the SLs. Some die earlier. I haven’t seen anyone post more than 30ish. If my current set only goes 30K, I’m probably going back to LT. Those do seem to last longer. The warranty is less, but that’s because of the potential for LTs to be installed on heavy duty trucks that tow and haul way more than us.

 

I was expecting about 30k out of my SL 265/70/16's, but I don't think I'll run them past 20k. Whatever compound they have seems to lose a lot of its traction/stickiness after 10k.

I ran the oem goodyears for about 18k before swapping to the AT3's. Of course, AZ pavement is hotter than heck in the summer. Your mileage may vary elsewhere.

 

Wil Toyo give you new tires? I you don't get what they say about the guarantee??

 

hey all,

I'm interested in stepping upto some Toyo AT3's in a c load (285/70/r17) and I was curious if the LT tires run larger/smaller than specs. (width or height). An example of this is in the youtube short where the Ko3 width is smaller. I personally dont mind if width is smaller than normal, just don't want something wider than expected where it'll be a funky fit.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q9G-0cgxYjo

some background, I had KO2's before and of course we had a good deal of rain during the time I had them on and the wet performance experience first hand (outside of the research I had done) I wasn't a fan of. The toyos are what i've looked more heavily to after much more research.

Thanks in advance for any feedback/comments.

 

Typically an LT tire might run a fraction taller due to the slightly deeper tread. It's not enough to make a difference, IMHO. Also, keep in mind that BFGs tend to run a little on the small side for a given stated size.

 

Are the C rated 2 or 3 ply sidewall?

 

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I thought the C rated Wildpeak AT4Ws were 3 ply. I could be wrong, however.

 

Don’t know about wild peaks. I think KO2s are 3 ply for E and C. I remember seeing it in a video that Toyos are 2 ply C and 3 ply E. And then. I looked at my C’s and confirmed because it’s written on the sidewall.

 

Have spent 30 minutes trying to find it because I had looked for the difference between C and E KO2's as well. IIRC the C was one less ply. Not sure if it was 2 and 3 or 3 and 4.
There was a handy chart on Discount Tire or the BFG website but now I can't seem to get it. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong.

 

I’m at 18k w my SL’s
50% highway. 25 city. 25 back roads. I drove around 100 miles a day. I got a little wider rims with 0 offset so that helps too. I drive fast so I like a sure footed tire. Especially in Western Washington where it rains a lot. They are an AT tire so a little spin on wet stop strips at lights on a hill is to be expected but otherwise I have great grip still. I run n 30 psi cold on all 4 and that seems a good sweet spot for me. In deep winter I drop them a couple pounds for icy conditions. This will be my second summer on them so I’m expecting some wear and if I can go through another winter on them I’ll be happy to get new next year. They’re a more square tire than say a KO2. The angled siping on the inner tread blocks helps cornering. I can’t say how much improvement they are to the AT2’s I ran because they were good tires also. I’m OK with the shorter lifespan of the Toyos because I get piece of mind when I’m doing 75 in the rain or whatever. I don’t rock crawl or any aggressive off roading except the occasional cruising down logging roads with the dogs. They do well in gravel and once on the beach had no problem. I think the combination of width, compound and pressure gets you the best grip and comfort level of a tire. Everyone’s driving habits, style, and environment should dictate what tire to use. Not looks. If you want looks get a set of KO2’s but don’t whine when the mpg goes downhill or you slide in the rain due to the heavy, hard compound they are well known for. If you want a fairly quiet good all around AT, it’s hard to beat these Toyos. I’m a “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” guy and Toyos have done me solid so I’m prolly going to get anything ther pair unless I get jelly looking at a taco with the KO2’s and get a set purely for vanity purposes lol.
True story- I had a set of AT2’s E rated on a 97 Chevy K2500 and I had the tire shop sipe them at purchase. I never had a more sure footed vehicle in the snow and ice than that. I might get my AT3’s siped at half life just to see how they do

 

I have these in the SL 265/75/16 and am at just over 30k and the tread is about done. I have rotated every 5k religiously and keep proper psi. The tires have worn extremely evenly. My question is what exactly is covered or what happens if they wear out within the warranty mileage?

 

Pretty sure it’s just tread life that is covered. I have yet to see anyone try to warranty them. If I were going to try, I would probably reach out to Toyo directly, with proof of purchase and then show them photos of the current odometer and a tire tread gauge on the tires. It seems like tire mile warranties are not often successfully utilities because of the manufacturer blaming simple generic causes such as alignment or shocks or any other simple possible problem causer.

Try and see. It is disappointing to see another SL wear out so early, but I’m not surprised. Every one I see makes me think more and more that I’ll either be going LT next time or trying the KO3s.

 

Finally got a set 265/70/16. I have the older AT2's on my other older pick up. These newer AT3's are more aggressive then the old AT2's. So fare I really like em. Hopefully they wear as good as my old AT2's. Those things are like iron I've got over 50K on them and still going strong.

 

So my AT3's have approximately 27k miles on them. I could probably get another 5k if I really pushed it, but they've got a lot of hairline cracks (dry rot) in-between the tread grooves and are pretty close to the wear bars.

I had one replaced about 5k miles ago due to a roofing nail and my spare is still brand new. I decided to order 2 more new ones today and I will put the new spare on full time. One of the old ones will be mounted back on the spare rim.

It's not what I planned as I have a nice lift and aftermarket wheels sitting in storage, but I just don't have the time right now to mess with installing all of that. My fox elite's really need to be re-valved by Accutune anyway.

Falken AT4W's, BFG K02's and a few others were considered, but the Toyo's are really smooth for the first 20k miles.

 

I got these tires right when they came out in a 265/75/16 sl and have 37k on them and they are about done. They went from super smooth to making some road noise around 20k and after that due to slight cupping have gotten a bit noisier. My question is- Is this good life from an AT? This was my first AT tire and put them on my Tacoma almost immediately after getting it. I have been looking at other AT tire options but I’m a bit naive as to if this tire is the best option and I would just be disappointed trying something else. Thanks in advance for any input or advice!

 

It all depends on the tire as to if life is normal. Toyos in a non-LT seem to be about a 30K tire. BFG may last 80-90K, but they’re such a hard rubber that they pretty much never wear out in our application, and they age out instead. They also slip and slide in the rain much more than Toyos, so it’s a constant pro and con list to consider.

I do know that pressure is important and 265/75R16 and P265/70R16 both should be run at 27 psi cold.

 

I just installed a set of 265/75R16 Toyo AT III's (SL load rating) on my truck. Right now I have them at 33 psi. I'm closely watching the thread wear and will adjust pressures as needed.